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Envying France, where guns aren't part of the altercation equation
newobserver.com ^ | Dec. 9, 2014 | Matt Buys

Posted on 01/07/2015 11:16:31 AM PST by PROCON

My 10-year old daughter and I visited Paris last month. We stayed in a small, clean hotel with private bathrooms near a bustling train station, Gare Du L’est. Senegalese, Kurds, Algerians, Vietnamese, Bengalese and some Parisians – all call this arrondissement, or urban administrative district, home. This small slice of Paris offers a smörgåsbord of cross-cultural experiences.

Since Gare Du L’est is one of the least-expensive locations in Paris, it is bit rough around the edges. That is, there is a little drug dealing, a little prostitution and lots of who knows what else. Further, my daughter, Katie, had never been to Europe or, for that matter, any country other than the United States. During our first days in Paris, she clinched my hand, without saying anything, tightly. Her grip loosened as we immersed ourselves in the sights and sounds of the different cultures. Each morning as we walked to the Metro, we tried guessing the different languages being spoken and enjoyed eating the Kurdish flat bread as much as the Parisian croissants.

France is a great country. But some French, like some Americans, struggle with diversity. At a local grocery store, we witnessed a white security guard shadowing a young black male. The boy, around the same age as my own teenage sons, had done nothing wrong. He was simply shopping for food. Soon, we saw him irritated by the guard’s menacing proximity. The boy left the store in anger and frustration. As the boy cleared the door, the guard yelled a racist slur. My daughter and I held our breath and looked down.

While we waited in the check-out line, the boy returned with his parents, an interracial couple. They were having none of the guard’s uncalled for ethnocentric behavior and slurs. Suddenly, several other customers chimed in, berating the security guard. Stunned at the outbursts, my daughter and I remained still and silent. In North Carolina, people tend not to raise their voices in grocery stores.

Walking back to our hotel, we talked about what we had seen, trying to make sense of it. How was this racist incident different from racist incidents in the USA? Well, frankly, one glowing difference stood out from the beginning: No one was armed. No one threatened to shoot anyone. Indeed, the fear of violence was significantly lessened by the absence of guns. The white security guard did not fear for his life. The boy did not fear for his life. The other people in the store did not fear for their lives. Neither did my daughter nor I.

In America, with the possibility that the guard, the boy and his parents – not to mention others in the store – might have been packing heat, I would have dropped my cheese and salami, grabbed my daughter and exited stage-right.

How simple the lesson? Remove the fear of guns from the equation, and it reduces the chance, to zero, of anyone getting shot. Moreover, it potentially clears the social stage for, one would hope, intelligent conversation, not to mention making life safer for everyone involved.

In case you did not know, Paris municipal police do not carry guns.

I understand that American cities, Atlanta and Charlotte come to mind, cannot metamorphose into Paris. And I admit I have guns I use to hunt.

But considering the everyday terror and death faced by too many civilians in our own communities, I envy France’s peaceful ways.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: banglist; france; guns; unicornsandrainbows
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To: PROCON

So, Matt, why’d you come back?


21 posted on 01/07/2015 11:35:12 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: T-Bone Texan

I understand that the raised voices and “outside the bounds” behavior is simply a supremacy thing.

If you “take it”, you’re cowed. They win.
If you speak up, they have an excuse to beat you. They win.


22 posted on 01/07/2015 11:36:58 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I wasn’t referring to anything you said. Only what he said.


23 posted on 01/07/2015 11:37:29 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

All works well as long as there are no wolves among the sheep.


24 posted on 01/07/2015 11:37:40 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
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To: Billthedrill

So they show up on their bicycles.
Were they ringing their bells,
or did they escalate it to using their whistles?


25 posted on 01/07/2015 11:37:53 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Perhaps they should “remove the fear of cars” next?


26 posted on 01/07/2015 11:40:04 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Do you know who Barry Soetoro is?)
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To: PROCON
> And I admit I have guns I use to hunt.

Y'know, if we ever do lose the 2nd Amendment, this guy is the kind of sanctimonious jackass I want to see disarmed first.

27 posted on 01/07/2015 11:41:51 AM PST by Flatus I. Maximus (Obstruct. Oppose. Overthrow. Obama.)
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To: PROCON
Presumably brave, but sadly unarmed, French policeman executed without trouble on the streets of Paris today.

Warning. Graphic.

Terrorists shoot officer in Paris during terrorist attack at Charlie Hebdo

28 posted on 01/07/2015 11:42:29 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead
Yeah, I did watch that execution, several times; the cop begged for his life.

Savages.

I wonder if the French populace will demand the police be armed now?

29 posted on 01/07/2015 11:44:42 AM PST by PROCON (Always give 100% -- unless you're donating Blood.)
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To: demshateGod
Yeah, I always try to immerse my 10 year old into a front seat for a terrorist attack, "a little drug dealing, a little prostitution and lots of who knows what else" Maybe she can share pictures of the before with the news reels of the after with her classmates.
30 posted on 01/07/2015 11:47:17 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: PROCON

Let’s not forget that the fact that the police had no guns is also the dynamic which allowed the perps to escape scot free.


31 posted on 01/07/2015 11:47:34 AM PST by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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To: demshateGod

Ah, ok.


32 posted on 01/07/2015 11:49:22 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Life and death are but temporary states. But Freedom endures forever.)
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To: PROCON; All

European Murder Rates Compared to the United States

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2013/01/european-murder-rates-compared-to.html


33 posted on 01/07/2015 12:12:16 PM PST by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: PROCON

“How simple the lesson? Remove the fear of guns from the equation, and it reduces the chance, to zero, of anyone getting shot. Moreover, it potentially clears the social stage for, one would hope, intelligent conversation, not to mention making life safer for everyone involved.

In case you did not know, Paris municipal police do not carry guns.”

Does the arrogant jerk who wrote this even feel a twinge of irony today? I hope he shares today’s pictures with his 10 year old, of the unarmed cop begging for his life before being shot point blank in the head.


34 posted on 01/07/2015 12:19:24 PM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: bgill

... little drug dealing, a little prostitution and lots of who knows what else . . .


Exactly! What parent would knowingly subject their 10 year old daughter to that?


35 posted on 01/07/2015 12:22:20 PM PST by punknpuss
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To: PROCON

OF course the liberal idiot never considers that millions carry daily and her paranoid scene never happens.

To a liberal we have so much gun violence that we need to ban guns but if you want a gun to defend yourself from all that violence you are just being paranoid.


36 posted on 01/07/2015 12:31:31 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: PROCON

Should we take bets on long before this article is wiped? Good find. Author looks like a jackass today.


37 posted on 01/07/2015 12:35:24 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: PROCON

Why did they stay near a bustling train station? I thought moonbats could fly.


38 posted on 01/07/2015 12:55:26 PM PST by baltimorepoet
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To: Billthedrill

They were peacefully unarmed. And are now just... Peaceful.

Isn’t peace grand?


39 posted on 01/07/2015 1:07:22 PM PST by SargeK
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To: PROCON

“Soon, we saw him irritated by the guard’s menacing proximity. The boy left the store in anger and frustration”

Ummm...anyone else think the ‘boy’ was more than irritated, and his intent to steal was thwarted that day?


40 posted on 01/07/2015 1:13:19 PM PST by lacrew
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