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To Admin Moderator: found this at The Zero Hedge blog and followed the trail to The Automatic Earth blog. These are VERY important issues; as such, I included both on this post. I hope you leave it intact.

Quote from Golden Oxen (www.theautomaticearth.com/you-thought-the-saudis-were-kidding):

"My gut feeling is the Saudi’s have very little to do with all this."

"We are witnessing a world wide economic contraction that is accelerating in my opinion and all the jibber jabber and phoney numbers are mere noise that confuse the issue."

"The damage that has been done to the minds of the worlds middle class by all this talk of buy ins, pension cuts, negative interest rates etc as well as fears of job stability are never talked about but have taken a major toll on confidence."

"Expecting big trouble after the holidays."

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What the Saudi Royals are doing is destroying the U.S.A.'s ability to finance the access and pumping of petroleum and natural gas from shale sources. It is too expensive to extract, and can not compete with $20 a barrel petroleum from Saudi Arabian oil fields.

1 posted on 12/25/2014 1:52:04 PM PST by SatinDoll
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To: SatinDoll
I do the restaurant test!

For the past 6 years there have been zero wait times to get in to Outback or Red Lobster. Now the wait can be 1 hour or more on a week night and forget about it on a Friday or Saturday unless you get there at 3 PM or after 8 PM!

2 posted on 12/25/2014 1:59:58 PM PST by america-rules
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To: SatinDoll

No plan survives first contact with the enemy. That enemy is Iran. This OPEC move is a Saudi attack on Iran and Russia. Any damage done to US fracking is incidental. If Iran gets their nuke, their first move will be to shut down all Saudi oil exports, which must exit through the Striates of Hormuz and the Red Sea. They have an estimated 70,000 mines with which to do it. The Russians will help and the US will do nothing. Oil will cost whatever the Russians and Iran say it costs.


5 posted on 12/25/2014 2:07:12 PM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: SatinDoll

The Soddies can play this game because their oil is the cheapest in the world to extract.


9 posted on 12/25/2014 2:19:04 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: SatinDoll

Drivel. Things are never as great as the optimists always say and things are neveras bad as people say they will get.

Funny how the article doesnt point out that demand for oil is still increasing...and it talks about T. Boone Pickens but It doesnt point out that he Is saying oil prices of $90-100 within 12 months. Probably too optimistic. Stupid articles like this help nothing.

Now do I beleive the 5% GDP number? No but do I believe our economy is growing? Yes. It is doing so because of all the great Americans getting up every day and going to work in spite of this governement.


10 posted on 12/25/2014 2:19:53 PM PST by rwh
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To: SatinDoll

Just wait till the Saudis start fracking.


11 posted on 12/25/2014 2:20:39 PM PST by Dallas59
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To: SatinDoll

It won’t stay that low for long ... and ... the article states that the shale oil can be turned on and off, as needed, and as prices climb and/or fluctuate.

“Although shale oil is relatively costly, production can be turned on and off much more easily – and cheaply – than from conventional oilfields. This means that shale prospectors should now be the “swing producers” in global oil markets instead of the Saudis.”


15 posted on 12/25/2014 2:40:42 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: SatinDoll
"We are witnessing a world wide economic contraction that is accelerating

Just a little restructuring before the next ice age kicks in.

Remember that Obama and the dims lie about everything...including global warming.

18 posted on 12/25/2014 2:42:23 PM PST by spokeshave (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people,)
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To: SatinDoll

Putin might “accidentally” drop some mines in the straits of hormuz. Some mines with the wrong return address.


21 posted on 12/25/2014 2:56:54 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SatinDoll
Saudi Arabia does not have the capacity to supply all of the world's oil needs. Consequently, the price will stay well above the $20 a barrel for which they can produce oil.

The decrease in oil will help jump start the world's economies and greatly reduce prices across the board. Areas involved with oil production will have issues, though.

In the end, demand reduction coupled with our fracking boom is what destroyed OPEC and deflated enviro-wackos’ egos for the non-cost effective energy alternatives.

25 posted on 12/25/2014 3:53:18 PM PST by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: SatinDoll

This article could have gotten the message across with 20% of the words used.


26 posted on 12/25/2014 4:50:48 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: RegulatorCountry; E. Pluribus Unum

Ping.

Thought you two would like to read this. It doesn’t get a lot of interest from Freepers, but the readers of RIM and those on ZeroHedge were very concerned.


28 posted on 12/25/2014 7:21:49 PM PST by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE US OF US CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: SatinDoll
What the Saudi Royals are doing is destroying the U.S.A.'s ability to finance the access and pumping of petroleum and natural gas from shale sources. It is too expensive to extract, and can not compete with $20 a barrel petroleum from Saudi Arabian oil fields.

There are a lot of big players upset about the Saudis actions here. Iran's first nuke may not be pointed at Israel when it launches. As for the Russians, some of their warheads may not be properly accounted for. That Saudi oil would not be worth .20 cents a barrel if it becomes irradiated overnight.

As terrible as the prospect of feeling the full brunt of the depression that we've seen signs of coming the past 6 years would be, it is far worse for other nations. Worse, they value human life far less than we do and would be less hesitant to embrace extreme solutions.

Interestingly enough, I found an article that supports my own speculation at this (safe) link:

Op-Ed: Saudi Arabia is First on the Iranian Nuke Hit List

29 posted on 12/26/2014 4:10:09 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: SatinDoll

Love the Automatic Earth blog.

They aggregate a lot of media about energy/finance but the main bloggers there also have original content that is quite insightful.

Thanks for posting


34 posted on 12/26/2014 7:10:14 AM PST by Lorianne (fed pork, bailouts, gone taxmoney)
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