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NM: Threats Complicate Defense of Self and Others
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| 14 December, 2014
| Dean Weingarten
Posted on 12/14/2014 3:03:50 PM PST by marktwain
In this case out of New Mexico, a man was found not guilty, but only after the prosecution did everything they could to convict him. It would have been a straightforward case of defense of self and others if he had refrained from making frivolous threats before the incident. From daily-times.com:
AZTEC After six hours of deliberation Friday, a jury found David Markham not guilty on all criminal charges, including first-degree murder, in the 2011 fatal shooting of Christopher Lucero.
Following a weeklong trial, the jury determined Markham, 60, acted in defense of himself and Leandra Tafoya when he shot Lucero on Dec. 12, 2011, at Tafoya's house, located at 11 County Road 3958 in Crouch Mesa.
Lucero and Tafoya had a long history of domestic abuse. Lucero had a restraining order against him when he started to beat and kick Tafoya. Their four year old son asked Markham to help his mother. Lucero was 34 at the time of his death. Markham was in the backyard repairing a vehicle when Lucero arrived and told him to leave. Markham told Lucero that Lucero should leave because he had a restraining order against him. Markham had known both Lucero and Tafoya since they were children.
It sounds clear cut, but the major problem was that there had been a dispute over a cell phone, which it appears that Lucero stole from Markham. Over several weeks, Markham told people at least six times that he wanted to kill Lucero. The jury did not find that this equaled premeditation, but the prosecution used the threats to base their case on.
They even charged Markham with "child abuse" for firing his pistol to defend himself and Tafoya from Lucero. Lucero's current girlfriend, who was at the scene shortly after the shooting, made an initial statement that the door had knocked her off balance and she had fallen off the step of the residence. Later, she changed her story, and claimed that Markham had pointed a gun at her and had pushed her. The Prosecution added assault and aggravated assault charges based on her changed testimony. It is likely that the additional charges were added to give the prosecution something to use in a plea bargain. It is worth noting that the prosecution did not charge Markham with making threats, which is a criminal offense in most states.
In the end, the jury found for Markham, but it was after three years and considerable expense.
There is a lesson hear for anyone who considers the possibility of self defense. Do not make threats. They can come back to haunt you in court. Do not play the Internet commando who says that "It is better to make sure that they are dead, so that there will only be only one story". Do not type "if I pull out my gun, I will always shoot". Such remarks are easily found by prosecutors searching your history on the Internet. Simple screen names and passwords are of little protection from a professional and legally sanctioned search.
Consider what Markham's angry words cost him when he was forced to act.
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We live in a society where recording is becomeing ubiquitous, and nearly every word on the Internet can be traced back to the originator.
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posted on
12/14/2014 3:03:50 PM PST
by
marktwain
To: marktwain
Does that mean we should all stop posting on Free Republic?
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posted on
12/14/2014 3:08:17 PM PST
by
Fungi
(Fungi, what are they? Not corrupt and only do good., except for the bad ones.)
To: marktwain
“I was in fear for my life.”
What???
“I was in fear for my life.”
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posted on
12/14/2014 3:08:49 PM PST
by
Travis McGee
(www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
To: marktwain
Talk of this kind is asinine, and would complicate such a case in any event. Nobody should be hoping to kill anybody, short of an out and out declaration of war (or a judicial punishment by due process of law). Talk of this kind has sometimes gotten pretty loose on Free Republic, by the way.
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posted on
12/14/2014 3:10:09 PM PST
by
HiTech RedNeck
(Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
To: Fungi
I think we should refrain from being asinine on Free Republic.
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posted on
12/14/2014 3:10:36 PM PST
by
HiTech RedNeck
(Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
To: HiTech RedNeck
I know people who if they just looked at me I would call it asinine.
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posted on
12/14/2014 3:14:57 PM PST
by
Fungi
(Fungi, what are they? Not corrupt and only do good., except for the bad ones.)
To: Fungi
Some of these things are asinine even to God. We know what they are.
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posted on
12/14/2014 3:16:46 PM PST
by
HiTech RedNeck
(Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
To: HiTech RedNeck
Good manners and common sense are always valued on Free Republic.
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posted on
12/14/2014 3:17:35 PM PST
by
marktwain
(The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
To: Fungi
Your post is worthless without a pic.
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posted on
12/14/2014 3:20:08 PM PST
by
Louis Foxwell
(This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
To: marktwain
Somethings there are calls for things that would not make sense except in the context of martial law in the hands of a concerted rebellion.
In a day when it’s easy enough to get people to believe that a policeman wanted to murder Mike Brown, it pays to watch what you say and to whom.
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posted on
12/14/2014 3:20:20 PM PST
by
HiTech RedNeck
(Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
To: Travis McGee
I was in fear for my life. I WANT TO SPEAK TO A LAWYER!
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posted on
12/14/2014 3:21:12 PM PST
by
Chode
(Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
To: HiTech RedNeck
Asinine is a state of mind. Some posters cannot help themselves.
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posted on
12/14/2014 3:21:41 PM PST
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Louis Foxwell
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To: marktwain
They're going to have to change their sign.
To: Louis Foxwell
If they can’t, maybe they should be helped off the board.
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posted on
12/14/2014 3:22:38 PM PST
by
HiTech RedNeck
(Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
To: Louis Foxwell
Good point, but believe me you do not want to see this person. No you don’t, your eyes would roll in their sockets and never return to normal.
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posted on
12/14/2014 3:27:10 PM PST
by
Fungi
(Fungi, what are they? Not corrupt and only do good., except for the bad ones.)
To: HiTech RedNeck; Louis Foxwell
“I think we should refrain from being asinine on Free Republic.”
Yup! I can’t help myself!
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12/14/2014 3:27:11 PM PST
by
Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
(Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
There is silly and goofy asinine, and then there is the kind of asinine that parallels the asininity of rap, except transposed into a different context. If we hate it, we ought not to imitate it.
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posted on
12/14/2014 3:30:12 PM PST
by
HiTech RedNeck
(Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
To: HiTech RedNeck
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posted on
12/14/2014 3:36:20 PM PST
by
Louis Foxwell
(This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
To: marktwain
Once again sovereign immunity is the root cause of so much police and judicial overreach. If the government was held liable for malicious searches, seizures and prosecutions the country would be a better place.
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posted on
12/14/2014 3:42:37 PM PST
by
jwalsh07
To: jwalsh07
The processes exist today, since courts have ruled that they must, but are cumbersome, costly and tend rarely to avail.
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posted on
12/14/2014 3:44:10 PM PST
by
HiTech RedNeck
(Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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