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We need to reinstate the war trophy. The next congress should do so.
1 posted on 12/13/2014 12:35:19 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

if they themselves are not a violent criminal, yes.


2 posted on 12/13/2014 1:04:42 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (e- Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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In one case, they even asked for the gun back!

I would think that the crime with the gun is a felony. How can a felon make a claim for a gun?

3 posted on 12/13/2014 1:30:48 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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This is a silly idea Physical taking, merely by itself, is no basis for ownership.


4 posted on 12/13/2014 1:32:58 AM PST by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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The problem is that crooks usually don’t maintain their weapons well, so there’s a potential for the would-be victim to end up with a low quality, or unsafe weapon. If this proposal were pursued, what I’d prefer to do is that the weapon gets confiscated and destroyed, and the crook is ordered to make restitution to the victim in an amount that includes the full purchase price of a new weapon of similar make. That way, if he grabs it, instead of getting somebody’s old piece of junk, he gets a brand new gun. We’d also be injecting a little extra money into the economy that way.


5 posted on 12/13/2014 1:46:51 AM PST by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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I think the victim should keep the attacker’s wallet.


6 posted on 12/13/2014 2:16:36 AM PST by Maurice Tift (Never wear anything that panics the cat. -- P.J. O'Rourke)
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If the victim so desires and is not otherwise legally barred from possession plus the weapon is not reported stolen, sure. Just spoils of combat.


7 posted on 12/13/2014 3:04:05 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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Anyone who wants to keep a street gun deserves what he or she gets.

Many street guns have been used in violent crimes including murder and have a legacy ballistic evidence trail that could get any owner in a lot of trouble.

Any gun obtained from a criminal should be sent to the police for forensic evaluation to determine it's criminal history.

On the topic of returning guns to violent criminals who hold others at gunpoint and threaten to murder innocent people in unprovoked assaults, lets just say I'm not in favor of leaving the offender in any position or condition to have a weapon of any sort returned to them.

8 posted on 12/13/2014 3:10:11 AM PST by rdcbn
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Shoppin for a gun...shoppin for a gun! :-)


9 posted on 12/13/2014 3:24:19 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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SIX LIVE ROUNDS!!!!!! Everybody stand back!


10 posted on 12/13/2014 3:34:25 AM PST by KingLudd
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A high percentage of street guns are very high quality because they were stolen from honest homeowners who were burgled.

The guns should be used for ballistic matching and evidence at trial and then immediately returned to the rightful owner with the rightful owner’s homeowner’s insurance policy paying a standard 10% finder’s fee to the individual who recovered the stolen property.

If by some stretch, an individual used a lawfully purchased weapon in a home invasion, the weapon should be returned by police (after trial) to the homeowner who recovered the gun or disposed of at that new owner’s discretion.

It is the homeowner’s home and bringing the weapon onto his property equates to a gift. The government has no more right to private property than their employers: the public.

A gun is not illegal. The original owner relinquished his/her right to own a gun (by committing a felony) and the gun now belongs to the last legally entitled possessor.


12 posted on 12/13/2014 4:23:41 AM PST by Ex-Pat in Mex
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To the victor goes the spoil.


13 posted on 12/13/2014 4:51:13 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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Give them a choice - keep the weapon or an ear...


14 posted on 12/13/2014 4:52:24 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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Speaking hypothetically, it is a case of "war booty" in most cases.
Now as to whether the 'victor' should keep the piece is a matter of judgement.
Does the 'victor' need the weapon in an immediate sense?
Does the 'victor' see value in the weapon?
Maybe not, in which case it might be a 'smart' move to disassemble the piece and dispose of it in various locations.
Is it a piece likely to attract further attention, i.e. a "well known" weapon?
If so, it might be advantageous to return it to its original owner. Karma is a real and sometimes powerful thing.

As is obvious, there are few quick & dirty answers. And it is not an easy thing to decide as one runs up an alley in a sweat from a 'close encounter' of the weird kind.

Stay Safe.
15 posted on 12/13/2014 4:57:54 AM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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Spot on. Did the perp show up for treatment? Was the gun stolen? If yes, it should be returned to its rightful owner.


17 posted on 12/13/2014 5:14:07 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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If the weapon is a Taurus, make sure it works properly before your life depends on it.


19 posted on 12/13/2014 5:17:24 AM PST by Sawdring
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Because so many guns used in crime are either defective, or “tainted”, by being associated with other crimes, in most cases it would be more appropriate to provide the citizen with a new, replacement gun. Assuming of course, that they and their family are legally allowed to be armed, and that they want it.

This being said, I am all for charity that would purchase and provide both guns and ammunition to some of the people who live in high crime areas.

1) Solely because of cost, inexpensive .22 pistols, about $125 each, and a small box of ammo, say $10.
2) Each gun would be engraved, about $15 a gun, that the gun is the property of the charity, is not for resale, nor can it be legally transferred to another person or outside of the state without permission of the charity.
3) Each gun would be ballistic tested, and those rounds preserved by the charity in case they were needed for a criminal investigation.
4) Distribution of the guns would only be to households where no one living there was legally forbidden to own a gun, and who wanted a gun. Perhaps one in four would fit those limits.
5) For just $10000, the charity could purchase 65 guns and ammo, and have them engraved. This would cover an area in the high crime neighborhood of about 260 homes, with random distribution. At half the cost of one full time rookie police officer for just one year.


22 posted on 12/13/2014 5:48:43 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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Works under Klingon law. I believe you also get to keep his wife.


23 posted on 12/13/2014 6:11:12 AM PST by jimfree (In November 2016 my 14 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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I wouldn’t want to keep a criminal’s gun. No telling what other crimes it is linked to and it may be listed as a stolen weapon. I’d dump it it deep water or a trash bin ASAP.


26 posted on 12/13/2014 7:01:18 AM PST by dangerdoc ((this space for rent))
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