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Eric Gardner's Crime: Selling Illegal Cigarettes Funds Mafias and Even Muslim Terrorists...
Reaganite Republican ^
| 04 December 2014
| Reaganite Republican
Posted on 12/04/2014 8:32:56 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
A textbook example of unintended consequences is provided by the heavy cigarette taxes levied in some US states-- each sets its own rate, and they vary wildly:
Missouri's state cigarette tax is 17 cents. It's $4.35 in New York...
Thus, the ATF says the federal gub'ment loses $5 billion in tax revenue every year from the trafficking of illegal cigarettes. Worldwide, it's a $100 billion problem, and it's the No. 1 economic crime in Europe.
Couldn't be any simpler:
cigarettes are purchased by organized crime types in a low-tax state,
who then truck them in for sale back in a high tax state. Most of the delta is pure profit for the smugglers.
A carton of cigarettes in Virginia is $30, but in New York City or other high-tax states, it can be $90 or more. That's just one carton.
One 18-wheeler full can quickly translate into $1 million in cash. And it all couldn't happen without people like Eric Gardner on the retail end.
Rand Paul thinks the high taxes on cigs in NY state can be blamed for the death of Eric Gardner, who was killed by a chokehold while resisting arrest for selling illegal smokes on the street.
Well, Paul's got a point about the effectiveness and fairness of
(highly regressive) 'sin' taxes, but HEY, I thought libertarians were all-into personal responsibility?
What about his fault for doing business with the mafia... or worse?
Of course, the crime has long been a revenue source for the Italian/Russian mafias in this country. BUT these days the $ is so big, the perps range from gangs to terrorist groups.
There are cases of illegal cigarette sales with ties to groups like Hezbollah and the Irish Republican Army.
One example would be the Charlotte Hezbollah case, where a
(radical, Islamist) cell out of Lebanon was trafficking cigarettes from
North Carolina (low-tax) to Michigan (high-tax).
They were using the proceeds to buy military armaments in Lebanon.
Did Gardner deserve to die for his illegal sales, like Rand Paul thinks he did?
Of course not... but that ain't what killed him, resisting arrest is.
Don't get physical with a cop, and nobody gets hurt (or killed). Capeche?
And perhaps not breaking the law in the first place would be good for one's health, as well.
TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: chokehold; cigarettes; ericgarner; gardner; manslaughter; terrorists
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To: Reaganite Republican
His Family smells Money now ,$75 Million worth
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posted on
12/04/2014 8:35:19 AM PST
by
molson209
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To: Reaganite Republican
Black Proglodytes and their Racially Stockholm Syndromed White serfs all willingly suffer from Black Libtardation Mythology Psychosis...These unstable, feral imbeciles should ALL be heavily dosed with Lithium, and carted off to Obamacare’s Soylent Green Cracker Company
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posted on
12/04/2014 8:35:26 AM PST
by
TexasFreeper2009
(Obama lied .. the economy died.)
To: AdvisorB; ken5050; sten; paythefiddler; gattaca; bayliving; SeminoleCounty; chesley; Vendome; ...
To: Reaganite Republican
That’s what happens when you don’t give the cops their cut of the action.
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posted on
12/04/2014 8:37:17 AM PST
by
dfwgator
To: Reaganite Republican
A carton of cigarettes in Virginia is $30, but in New York City or other high-tax states, it can be $90 or more. That's just one carton.Used to get a carton for less than $2 in NC in the 1960s.
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posted on
12/04/2014 8:37:39 AM PST
by
MUDDOG
To: Reaganite Republican
I haven’t seen it determined where Garner got the cigarettes.
IMO the police went waaaay over the line in his arrest. What happened to Tasers?
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posted on
12/04/2014 8:38:48 AM PST
by
Vinnie
To: molson209
Of course- they hit the lotto
Makes you sick- attack a cop and set up your kids for life (or at least until they blow it all in the stupidest ways possible).
To: Reaganite Republican
Paying taxes supports the shakedown racket known a 'government'.
/johnny
To: MUDDOG
I paid $9.35 for a pack in Manhattan, and that was 8 years ago
(note: quit 6 years ago)
To: Reaganite Republican
I think Eric Gardner was funding Eric Gardner.
To: Reaganite Republican
Prices like that make a grown man holler!
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posted on
12/04/2014 8:40:51 AM PST
by
MUDDOG
To: Reaganite Republican
The guy has a history of “crimes” according to one article I read.
To: MUDDOG
To: MUDDOG
Your $2.00 (baseline: 1960) carton of smokes should, by inflation, cost $16.04 today. Looks like the real price of cigs has approximately doubled.
To: Reaganite Republican
The nanny state bans and controls everything - selling individual cigarettes, 20 oz sodas, lard for frying. When everything is controlled, everything you do is potentially illegal. Eric Garner was killed by a random, bureaucratic nanny-welfare state and one of its thousands of ridiculous rules.
When the cost of a pack of cigarettes vs. taxes paid make the potential profit $5 per pack, criminals of every sort will get involved. No different from prohibition
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posted on
12/04/2014 8:43:56 AM PST
by
PGR88
To: Reaganite Republican
New York taxes, on cigs, created the market.
I pay $7 buck in California for a pack.
But, New York thinks they are worth double?
I just bring my own, when going to Manhattan and if there were a more reasonable outlet to purchase them, you bet I’d shop there.
Even if it was on a street corner.
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posted on
12/04/2014 8:44:57 AM PST
by
Vendome
(Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
To: JRandomFreeper
“Paying taxes supports the shakedown racket known a ‘government’.”
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I’m with you in principle but even I would rather it go to DC than Hezbollah!
To: Reaganite Republican
Eric Gardner's Crime: Selling Illegal Cigarettes Funds Mafias and Even Muslim Terrorists... OK so this is by far the craziest reason I've seen trying to justify the killing of Gardner. Now he had to die to keep money from the Mafia and Muslim terrorists?
To: Reaganite Republican
A shakedown racket is a shakedown racket. DC just has nicer suits.
/johnny
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