Posted on 11/14/2014 6:06:07 AM PST by IBD editorial writer
A fourth video emerged on Thursday of MIT economist Jonathan Gruber talking about how Democrats purposely misled the public about ObamaCare.
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Guess I’ll come right out and say it, he’s a dead man.
James O’Keefe and Newt Gingrich caused Gruber to LIE.
He depended on federal and state grants/contracts for his career. At this point, he’ll have to wrap up things, disappear into New Mexico for ten years and just hope that folks are “stupid-enough” to forget about him.
He will need to be ‘dealt with’, before he is subpoenaed before the House.
I see an umbrella and a ricin pellet in his future.
How long until he gets the Hastings treatment?
Hope his vehicle doesn’t have computer controlled cruise control and auto park...
No sense in doing that. He said all this stuff years ago. He's not going to go out and spew this verbiage tomorrow. I just wonder how much more of it is on video waiting to be discovered/leaked. And I REALLY wonder if John("it's a tax") Roberts has seen any of it.
".....In the Vermont 2011 video shot by TrueNorthReports.com and sent to Watchdog.org on Thursday, Jonathan Gruber appears before the Vermont House Health Care Committee to present recommendations for a universal, publicly financed health care program. The recommendations were part of the 2011 Hsiao Report submitted to the Legislature by economist William C. Hsiao and co-written by Jonathan Gruber.
As Gruber sits there, listening (mentally preparing for the kill), the committee chair reads a comment from a Vermonter who expresses concern that Gruber---an MIT economist--- plan might lead to ballooning costs, increased taxes and bureaucratic outrages, among other things.
After hearing the Vermonters worries, Gruber responds in his now-familiar derogatory manner: Was this written by my adolescent children by any chance?
The remark was met with uproarious laughter.
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Contrary to Grubers snarky insult, the comment was not written by an adolescent. It was actually written by a former senior policy adviser in the White House who knew something about health care systems, said John McClaughry, a two-term Vermont state senator and adviser to President Ronald Reagan in the 1980s.
That the Demonrats attempted to mislead the public about Obamacare, the repeated random acts of honesty contained in statements by Gruber prove beyond doubt. They may have fooled Dem lawmakers into passing it, but at no time has the public been anywhere near approving of Obamanationcare!
Forgot about Roberts. When will the truth come out about him?
Posthumously, of course...
-PJ
Obama specifically ordered Jonathan Gruber---and other healthcare experts in on the hoax---to find ways to game the CBO numbers so that they could pass the bill without Americans being the wiser.
After all, they had the preening Gruber who knew the "dirty little secret" of Romneycare---that Massachusetts ripped off the federal govt (read taxpayers) to finance it.
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Gruber loved to pat himself on the back----b/c, he, a lowly MIT professor, was now in the company of the Big Boys--- visitng the WH a dozen times--rubbing shoulders w/ Mass Gov Mitt Romney and then-Sen Teddy Kennedy (the liberal lion of US politics).
Anytime he found himself before an audience, the self-satisfied Gruber lapsed into his gleeful, endless showboating over passing Obamacare....and how it was accomplished over the concern of "stupid" Americans.
THE SMOKING GUN---On July 20, 2009, Jonathan Gruber met with the POTUS in the West Wing. He was there almost four hours.
Jonathan Gruber has clearly identified President Obama as the source of the lie behind the "Cadillac Tax." Jonathan Gruber fingered the president of the US in the deliberate lie Obama used to pass the healthcare atrocity.
Not sure why this is news.
Who DIDN’T know the Dems were plying every craft of words and politics to get this truckload of bovine extract into law? This is like breaking news that Liberace was gay.
If Pelosi didn’t know Gruber how could she then say he didn’t write the bill?
Funny thing about MIT grads: They’re considered brilliant and experts in all matters they discuss....unless they’re last name is Netanyahu.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3226898/posts
FLASHBACK: MIT analysis backs Obama (Gruber provided new ammunition Senate Dems)
POLITICO ^ | 11/28/09 | Mike Allen
A new analysis by a leading MIT economist provides new ammunition for Democrats as the Senate begins formally debating the historic health-reform bill being pushed by President Barack Obama.
The report concludes that under the Senates health-reform bill, Americans buying individual coverage will pay less than they do for today’s typical individual market coverage, and would be protected from high out-of-pocket costs.
So Democrats will argue that under the Senate bill, Americans would pay less for more.
The new document arms Democrats with a response to the contention of Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) that the bill would mean higher premiums, higher taxes, and massive cuts to Medicare.
The microsimulation analysis is by Jonathan Gruber, an economist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and a Treasury Department official under President Bill Clinton. Gruber used data from the Congressional Budget Office.
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/rahm-orders-health-care-article-be-must-read-for-staffers?ref=fpblg
Rahm Orders Health Care Article Be Must-Read For Staffers
ByCHRISTINA BELLANTONIPublishedNOVEMBER 24, 2009, 3:35 PM EST
When President Obama likes a magazine article, White House staffers had better read it.
Obamas must-read is Ron Brownsteins Saturday blog post A Milestone in the Health Care Journey at the Atlantics political Web site.
Politico noted today that Obama found the article, which lauds Max Baucus approach to health care, a good summary of the cost controls in the health care bill.
An administration official tells TPMDC that White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel assigned the article as homework during a recent meeting.
According to the official, Emanuel told senior staffers not to come back to the next days meeting if they hadnt read the article.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2009/11/a-milestone-in-the-health-care-journey/30619/
A Milestone in the Health Care Journey
RONALD BROWNSTEINNOV 21 2009, 11:29 AM ET
When I reached Jonathan Gruber on Thursday, he was working his way, page by laborious page, through the mammoth health care bill Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid had unveiled just a few hours earlier. Gruber is a leading health economist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology who is consulted by politicians in both parties. He was one of almost two dozen top economists who sent President Obama a letter earlier this month insisting that reform wont succeed unless it bends the curve in the long-term growth of health care costs. And, on that front, Gruber likes what he sees in the Reid proposal. Actually he likes it a lot.
Im sort of a known skeptic on this stuff, Gruber told me. My summary is its really hard to figure out how to bend the cost curve, but I cant think of a thing to try that they didnt try. They really make the best effort anyone has ever made. Everything is in here....I cant think of anything Id do that they are not doing in the bill. You couldnt have done better than they are doing.
Gruber may be especially effusive. But the Senate blueprint, which faces its first votes tonight, also is winning praise from other leading health reformers like Mark McClellan, the former director of the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services under George W. Bush and Len Nichols, health policy director at the centrist New America Foundation. The bottom line, Nichols says, is the legislation is sending a signal that business as usual [in the medical system] is going to end.
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In their November 17 letter to Obama, the group of economists led by Dr. Alan Garber of Stanford University, identified four pillars of fiscally-responsible health care reform. They maintained that the bill needed to include a tax on high-end Cadillac insurance plans; to pursue aggressive tests of payment reforms that will provide incentives for physicians and hospitals to focus on quality and provide care that is better coordinated; and establish an independent Medicare commission that can continuously develop and implement new efforts to improve quality and contain costs. Finally, they said the Congressional Budget Office must project the bill to be at least deficit neutral over the 10-year budget window and deficit reducing thereafter.
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http://www.politico.com/playbook/1109/playbook874.html
Obama makes a Ron Brownstein blog post mandatory reading for the West Wing
By: MIKE ALLEN on November 24, 2009
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WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS READING Sources say President Obama declared that a Saturday blog post by Ronald Brownstein on The Atlantics Politics channel on how health reform would control costs was mandatory reading for all senior staff and that everyone involved in, or covering, the health care debate should see the piece, headlined: A Milestone In the Health Care Journey:
http://www.landrieu.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=1630
Landrieu: Now is the Time to Pass Health Care Reform
December 15, 2009
WASHINGTON Following a meeting with President Obama and fellow Democratic Senators, United States Senator Mary L. Landrieu, D-La., today encouraged the Senate to move health care legislation forward. Sen. Landrieu commented on the improvements made to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, and outlined how these changes will positively affect Louisiana families and small businesses.
Sen. Landrieu said:
While many of us expressed cost and bureaucracy concerns about early drafts of health care reform legislation, it is clear that the product the Senate is debating is a dramatic improvement. Senate Democrats have developed a consensus that combines the best blend of private and public approaches to reduce cost, expand coverage and increase choice and competition for Americans. The Congressional Budget Office and the nations premier economists have confirmed that premiums will go down or remain stable, so that wages for millions of Americans can increase.
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He’s telling the truth Reid and Pelosi are afraid to tell
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