Posted on 10/02/2014 8:27:26 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
I'm surprised that I haven't seen any wargaming thoughts on how Ebola Virus is going to play-out in the US in the coming weeks, months and years. Watching how Duncan was managed in Texas does not give me any confidence that the feds or state health authorities have a clue what to do and are totally disorganized and unprepared. This is surprising given the fact we've had almost 40 years of knowledge of and experience with hemorrhagic viruses from Central Africa including Marburg, Lassa, and Ebola. You'd think that every health agency in the country would have figured out how to respond to this rapidly and effectively.
How do you think Eboloa is going to play out in the U.S. I'd enjoy hearing from the smartest collection of people on the web on your prognostications. How will this affect our health, our standard of living, our travel, our freedoms, our families, our jobs, the supply of products on store shelves, the willingness of people to go to work, peoples' faith? Will people be willing to congregate anywhere in even small numbers? Or will people hunker down until it burns out?
Will it spread like wildfire after inept attempts by incompetent government to control it? Or will government do the right thing quickly enough to get this under control?
If it spreads rapidly, how quickly will we exhaust all isolation wards, all medical personnel, all medical supplies (including simple things like bandages and bed linens, mattresses, pillow cases, as well as complex things like Biosafety Level 4 suits)? Will the medical industry be able to research, produce and get to market an effective vaccine quickly enough to slow down the spread? Based on the AIDS experience, this would seem to be wishful thinking.
How will all the dead bodies be disposed? Do we need to build huge incinerators? Would the authorities possibly euthanize infected people before their organs turn into puddles of hot mush?
Will the virus mutation rate in the trillions of cells in each affected person make it's spread more efficient? Will it explode geometrically or exponentially?
Will tourism quickly collapse as people fear staying in hotel rooms where other strangers have stayed or out of fear of getting onto an airplane or train compartment with contaminated surfaces that simply cannot be disinfected?
Will colleges and universities collapse as students stay at home?
What will society look like after this is over?
Will this finally lead to adults being voted back into leadership positions in the country, adults who take our nation's safety seriously? Will this lead to the final demise of the Democrat and Republican parties? Could this lead to dictatorship? Will people finally wake and realize that you need serious, experienced executive leadership to run the States and Nation?
Will this possibly lead to the final end of "politically correct" thought? Will the masses of people finally get back to the practical realization that all cultures are NOT equal? Is this the end of "multi-cultural" PC thought?
Good Night all, I have to get up in 6 hours and head out to a local Hospital.
RayChuang88, I really pray you are right.
America and Americans will rise to the occasion
Perhaps, yet- the ability for a raw form virus, to mutate in a fresh DNA memory, is absolutely unpredictable.
Now that looks like less than what I saw on the workers over seas. Hair/head is exposed, the coverall appears thinner, and I didn’t see any protective boots and no sticky tape to tape around the gloves and pants legs.
Their usual protocol is to have a medical waste receptical right outside the doorway too, and that generally is right in the hallway - a double entry would be better.
In the level 4 labs, you don’t take off the gear, until you have gone through more than one decontamination areas including UV light.
I wouldn’t step foot inside a room with an Ebola patient in the gear that is pictured there, but then I am an advocate of an abundance of caution for diseases with 50% or more mortality and no real cure or vaccine for prevention.
“We’ve been scared with bird flu word flu turd flu and MRSA, swine flu bine flu pine flu and SARS, hanta virus, banta virus, panta virus and now ebola virus. “
Bird/human and Swine/human flu hybrids do something that normal human flu does not do and that is to kill very large numbers of young adults in the prime of their lives. It uses their strong immune systems against them and they drown in their own antibodies. The 1918 flu was the last major flu of this sort to go around.
Every time an animal/human flu hybrid develops it has the potential to be as deadly as the 1918 flu and it is more important to be vaccinated against it than for a normal flu. SARS is a similar virus that has crossed from animals to humans but it is much more rare than the flu.
MRSA is a staphylococcus aureus bacteria resistant to virtually every antibiotic we have. You’re pretty much on your own if you get that one. The flesh eating bacteria that can cause the loss of every limb on your body is a form of MRSA.
Hanta virus is a hemorrhagic fever virus found in the American Southwest. You can catch it from dry mouse droppings. 20 years ago a young couple I know went camping in the California desert and a week or two after they returned the wife came down with the flu. Only it wasn’t the flu it was Hantavirus and it killed her. She was 30 yrs old and very athletic.
Efficient mass dissemination of the virus on travelers heading to the US, so that the incubation happens in the US. From there you can get very creative.
The only way to cut it off is to require a 21 day stop in another continent, and do away with all non-stops flights. But that is not going to happen……so it's coming.
Some things will come back into style.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/16/ebola-africa-new-strain_n_5162354.html
Zaire can travel dried for years....This report says its a new strain.....but definately NOT zaire....
Though it came from .....zaire.....
Miss Ellis Island now?
I’m here in Texas reasonably close to DFW. Heard on local radio tonight that the ambulance company and crew were not notified about the ebola diagnosis until they heard it on the news. That ambulance was in service hauling patients for at least two days after it carried the ebola patient with just “routine” cleaning. So far there has been no organized trace work done on those potentially exposed. It may lead to nothing -— but another unsuspecting case may be lurking out there a few days from now.
Introverts will fare better.
That is so so sad.
Everyone that gets a fever, diarrhea, or stomach flu will be convinced they have Ebola and will overwhelm the hospitals.
I have a sister that has had every disease known to mankind.
I have been having many of these same thoughts...80,000 people in a stadium for a football game, 10 Obola carriers...There could be 800 to a 1000 new cases by the end of the game...If this is not stopped soon, it will probably become illegal to congregate in any fashion...
I am heading to the decontamination showers after reading your post...
Possible. We don't know that for sure, but it is possible.
Your point is somewhat valid in that Ebola is not particularly easy to catch. It is extremely serious though, a couple of virons can ultimately kill you. My worst fear is that the terrorists khow this and turn it into a WMD. That would not be difficult at all.
In a population with stupid, superstitious people who cut the throats of the tracers. I'm not saying we are better, but we have a larger number of literate people who will behave mostly rationally.
Not from just one case. But there are 13k visas given to Ebola countries who can hop a flight anytime they want from Africa to Europe to here. Among them are terrorists who will not be infected themselves...
Not. It is not anthrax or some other spore than can be dried and then turn into bacteria. When Ebola virus is dried, it will be dead.
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