In ISIS Speech President Seeks To Define What Religions May Believe

http://leomcneil.net/2014/09/11/in-isis-speech-president-seeks-to-define-what-religions-may-believe/ ^ | September 11, 2014 | Leo McNeil

[LeoMcNeil]

President Obama sounded like President Bush in his speech last night, ordering military strikes against ISIS. Not surprisingly the left gushed over the speech, declaring it “nuanced.” Pointless or a day late and a dollar short are more accurate descriptions. ISIS has been a growing threat for months, having been dismissed by Obama as the “JV” team. A handful of airstrikes and 475 “boots on the ground” aren’t going to deter a group like ISIS. The Nobel Peace Prize President is leading us into war. Is anyone confident it will turn out well?

Perhaps the highlight of Obama’s absurd speech was his declaration that ISIS isn’t Islamic. I have always enjoyed when people who don’t believe in a particular religion declare what is and isn’t acceptable belief in that religion. Christians hear this all the time from atheists and others who want to limit the extent of Christian teaching, usually when it comes to topics such as abortion, homosexual acts or sex generally. In typical liberal fashion, Obama is going to tell Muslims what is and isn’t acceptable for them to believe. The arrogance is incredible.

Obama didn’t just stop there, he went further. He declared that “no religion condones the killing of innocents.” Who is Obama to declare this so? Since when did the President of the United States, be it Obama or anyone else, have the authority to declare what religions are and aren’t allowed to believe? The fact is that Islam has a 1400 year history of conversion by conquest and murder. There are other religions that have killed people in the name of their god. The Aztec’s and others engaged in human sacrifices. Are these not religions because Obama said so? He’s not even following a Christian line of thought, which would argue they’re false religions. He’s simply declaring it so because he’s Obama and apparently that gives him the authority to declare what is and isn’t a religion.

In doing this Obama shows us two things. First, he shows us the supreme arrogance of his vision of the state. As head of state, he believes he has the right and authority to declare what is and isn’t a religion and what is and isn’t acceptable doctrine. This is long standing with Obama, we saw the same thinking with his contraception mandate. Second, we see his profound ignorance of the history of Islam, which has never been a religion of peace. This is a religion that believes in conversion by the sword. It has a long history of killing people who convert to a different faith or who refuse to convert to Islam. To pretend like what ISIS is doing has no basis in the Koran or no precedent in Muslim history displays an incredible ignorance.

The problem of course is that Obama isn’t the first President to display an ignorance of Islam. His predecessor is credited for coining the term “religion of peace,” which is something Islam has never been. For all the attacks Obama has made on Bush over the years, this war is entirely on his shoulders. He’s the one who insisted on leaving Iraq and now he’s heading back after, predictably, terrorists overpowered the weak state Obama left behind. If Bush was foolish and arrogant in entering Iraq in the first place, Obama is even more so now. He has a recent history to look back on. Unfortunately, he enters this war making declarations about ISIS and Islam that simply aren’t true. He’s seeking to define the war and define the people fighting the war in a manner that is both arrogant and inaccurate. Practically the entire American public has spent their lifetime watching Muslims create world problems in the name of Allah. Does anyone buy the President’s attempt to declare what Muslims believe?

[WilliamofCarmichael]

the highlight of Obama’s absurd speech was his declaration that ISIS isn’t Islamic.

If I had been listening I would have turned it off immediately.

The occupier of the Oval Office says ISIS is not Islam. They're Syrian tea baggers maybe?

The influence over the Obama Administration is one small step for an imam but it's one giant step toward the end of the road for 'em. I hope.

I hope I live long enough to see the proper authorities bring these traitorous Obama, et al and the Muslim Brotherhood bastards to justice.

Though they appear to be losing to the Islamists millions of Turks have long made it plain that they are not ready to give in to Islamism, Sharia law, and burkas.. (You'd think that they ought to know what Islamism is.)

". . . 32 percent to 38 percent of Turks (upward of 25 million people) would never support the [Islamist] AKP or want to live in a country shaped solely by its values." Tens of millions of Muslims in Turkey are "Islamophobes" like us?

Read and see more

[Liz]

Former CIA Officer: ‘A Lot of Communication’ Between ISIS, Mexican Cartels
Breitbart.com | 08/21/2014 | Ian Hanchett / FR Posted by Rusty0604

Former CIA covert operations officer, Mike Baker, on “The Laura Ingraham Show,” said that he believes there is “a lot of communication” between ISIS and Mexican drug cartels.......as well as similar efforts in the past by al Qaeda.

“We’ve had good intel over the years about al Qaeda, about their efforts to coordinate with Mexican cartels...in an effort to try to exploit our southern border” he reported, adding that a terrorist group like ISIS “absolutely” knows about the lack of security on the border.

Baker stated he believes there is “a lot of communication” between ISIS and drug cartels.

Bake emphasized that “the cartels are a business ... if there’s a revenue stream they can exploit, they will, and the extremists understand that.” (Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...

[BykrBayb]

He’s not ignorant of islam. He’s lying about islam. It’s called Taqiyya.

[V_TWIN]

“his declaration that ISIS isn’t Islamic.”

It’s not just what he said but the way he said it. With a very nasty snotty attitude like he was scolding a bunch of children for even thinking such a thing. I guess such accusations of ones OWN religion will usually provoke such a reaction.

[Liz]

Does anyone buy the President’s attempt to declare what Muslims believe?

He has a lot of help.

Obama gave the Muslim Brotherhood billions of tax dollars
and elevated them to prominent positions in the US govt.

Arif Alikhan, assistant secretary of Homeland Security for policy development;

Mohammed Elibiary, a member of the Homeland Security Advisory Council;

Rashad Hussain, the U.S. special envoy to the Organization of the Islamic Conference;

Salam al-Marayati, co-founder of the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC);

Imam Mohamed Magid, president of the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA);

Eboo Patel, a member of President Obama's Advisory Council on Faith-Based Neighborhood Partnerships.

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NOTE: US Homeland Security adviser Mohamed Elibiary, appointed by Obama, resigned following tweets about the “inevitable” return of the Caliphate (via ISIS) and “misreading” of 9/11.

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REFERENCE Federal outreach to Muslim American communities is a pillar of Obama counter-terrorism strategy
Washington post | 5/25/2013 | ap / FR Posted by tobyhill

Within hours of the Boston Marathon blasts, government officials and Muslims in Boston called each other to offer assistance. These calls were the fruits of years of cultivating such relationships in an effort to ultimately prevent the very type of attack Boston experienced April 15....

Representatives from the US Departments of Justice and Homeland Security called to offer support to Muslim communities......just in case THEY suffered backlash or threats. (more on FR).

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REFERENCE FR Rusty posted: Rep. Louie Gohmert (Rep-Tx) Claims Muslim Brotherhood is Advising Obama Not to Stop ISIS

(Video) - http://www.opposingviews.com/i/politics/foreign-policy/war-terror/rep-louie-gohmert-claims-muslim-brotherhood-advising-obama-not#sthash.VpgL9ODz.dpuf

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Obama admin unilaterally changes law to allow immigrants
with 'limited' terror contact into US The Daily Caller
| 2/5/14 / FR Posted by Nachum

The Obama administration has issued new exemptions to a law that bars certain asylum-seekers and refugees who provided “limited material support” to terrorists who are believed to pose no threat from the U.S.

The Department of Homeland Security and the State Department published the new exemptions Wednesday in the Federal Register to narrow a ban in the Immigration and Nationality Act excluding refugees and asylum seekers who had provided limited material support, no matter how minor, to terrorists.

“These exemptions cover five kinds of limited material support that have adversely and unfairly affected refugees and asylum seekers with no tangible connection to terrorism: material support that was insignificant in amount or provided incidentally in the course of everyday social, commercial, family or humanitarian interactions, or under significant pressure,” a DHS official explained to The Daily Caller.

Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh Johnson and Secretary of State John Kerry signed the exemptions. DHS contends / that the law change is “commonsense” and that immigration procedures will remain the same in other respects. (Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...

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When ISIS wages war against Americans---Obama says:" How much do you need? I'll have the US Treasury write you out a check."

[Travis McGee]

Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi has a PhD in Islamic Studies.

I'm pretty sure he understands what Islam is.

[Liz]

Former CIA Officer: ‘A Lot of Communication’ Between ISIS, Mexican Cartels
Breitbart.com | 08/21/2014 | Ian Hanchett / FR Posted by Rusty0604

Former CIA covert operations officer, Mike Baker, on “The Laura Ingraham Show,” said that he believes there is “a lot of communication” between ISIS and Mexican drug cartels.......as well as similar efforts in the past by al Qaeda.

“We’ve had good intel over the years about al Qaeda, about their efforts to coordinate with Mexican cartels...in an effort to try to exploit our southern border” he reported, adding that a terrorist group like ISIS “absolutely” knows about the lack of security on the border.

Baker stated he believes there is “a lot of communication” between ISIS and drug cartels.

Bake emphasized that “the cartels are a business ... if there’s a revenue stream they can exploit, they will, and the extremists understand that.” (Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...

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REFERENCE Obama's henchman over at USCIS (a DHS agency) is rubber free-for-all approvals of border jumpers from 144 countries (countries teeming w/ drug cartels).

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USCIS rubber-stamper Leon Rodriguez, a recent Obama appointee, oversees the legitimization of the border swarm.....emanating from 144 countries.

Rodriguez also administers EB-5 visas as head of USCIS (A DHS agency).....EB-5's are said to involve major threats to US national security:

BACKSTORY In an earlier statement----citing a Homeland Security Investigations memo----Sen Charles Grassley said the oversight federal agency ICE identified key vulnerabilities in EB-5 visas:

1) Export of sensitive technology/economic espionage.

2) Use by foreign government agents/espionage.

3) Use by terrorists.

4) Investment fraud by regional center.

5) Investment fraud by investors.

6) Fraud conspiracies by investors and regional center.

7) Illicit finance/money laundering.

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Eye-opening exchanges on this topic at the recent House Judiciary hearing on immigration.

<><> Patriot Cong Randy Forbes (Rep-VA) said Americans need to know if violent gang members are walking their streets. Forbes asked UCIS--a DHS agency--headed by Obama appointee Leon Rodrigues---whether the agency asked applicants about gang membership---and when they invariably reply no, how does the agency know whether it's true or not?

The calculated Rodriguez would not reveal information---Forbes insisted on knowing "do you even ask them if they're gang members."

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Rodriguez's confirmation hearings revealed he was a board member of Casa Maryland---a latino-centric advocacy group---pushing for unlimited immigration, and has connections to nationwide immigrant groups.

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ACTION--CONTACT FBI TIPS PAGE WEB SITE---YOU MAY REMAIN ANONYMOUS---https://tips.fbi.gov

<><> Taxpayers demand Rodriguez, USCIS, the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, La Raza, and other tax-funded latino groups, be investigated. Supboena official filings, phone records, emails, snail mail copies, hard drives, bank accounts, checking accounts, credit cards, debit cards, wire transfers, social media contacts, and the like.

<><> Taxpayers demand to know if govt factotums like Rodriguez, and the aforementioned tax-funded groups, are consorting with violent organizations advocating the overthrow of the US govt.

<><> TAXPAYERS demand to know who these people are communicating with, and who is directing their activities

[WilliamofCarmichael]

Obama: "My Muslim Faith" - YouTube

[LeoMcNeil]

I agree, it was snotty. Obama believes in massive government involvement in our lives. It’s hardly surprising that he believes government should define what religions are and are not allowed to believe. He’s been doing it to Christians for years, the contraception mandate is a good example. Now he’s extending his self declared government definition of religion to Muslims overseas. It’s absurd of course but it puts his belief in the all powerful state out there for everyone to see.

[V_TWIN]

Yep, the Freudian slip of the century.......good thing his little lib media lap dog was there to correct it. Unbelievable.

[InterceptPoint]

Nice post.

I replayed that segment several times just to make sure that I heard it right. It was the highlight of the speech for me.

But I don't agree that Obama was making claims about the peaceful nature of Islam as an outsider. He was protecting his own faith. He was defending it. He does not want us to believe that ISIS is the face of Islam. But it is.

ISIS is Sunni. Obama is a Sunni Muslim. He won't tell us that. But his actions speak much louder than his words.

[pabianice]

The Koran demands that unbelievers be killed.

[sphinx]

Well, he is The One. If we can’t trust Obama to define the parameters of all religious faiths, who can we trust? True Islam is a religion of peace. True Christianity is pro-abortion. Next he will be telling us that true Hinduism is pro-hamburger.

[chesley]

If I had been listening I would have turned it off immediately.

I no longer listen to any of his speeches. It only makes me nauseous that this man is President of the United States.

[laotzu]

A handful of airstrikes and 475 “boots on the ground” aren’t going to deter a group like ISIS

QUAGMIRE!!

[LeoMcNeil]

I don’t think Obama is a Muslim. He’s a leftist agnostic, which is part of the reason why he doesn’t understand why Muslims might kill for their faith. There’s nothing about Obama’s life that suggests he’s secretly a Muslim. The reason why he comes off as pro-Muslim at time is because he was raised as an anti-imperialist. Thus he supports Muslims overthrowing their imperialist overlords, particularly the British. He’s cool relationship with Britain suggests his anti-imperialist attitude.