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1 posted on 06/12/2014 6:52:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Add #6: Health care costs


2 posted on 06/12/2014 6:54:26 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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there are similar lists of what you aren’t allowed to say about blacks, women, or other minorities. Because to do so would be racist/sexist/bigoted in some way.


3 posted on 06/12/2014 6:58:02 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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2) Some people do choose to be gay: Most Americans tend to believe that people who are gay either choose it OR are born that way. However, the evidence suggests that there tends to more of a range of sexual behavior for people who are gay. Some people are clearly “born” gay and have always been attracted to the same sex

Some people are not clearly born gay. They just happen to be influenced early on by environmental variables resulting in their developing a same sex attraction.

4 posted on 06/12/2014 6:59:19 PM PDT by fso301
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You can’t say that homosexuality is dangerous or harmful, or that the anus is not a sex organ. Too much truth at the expense of emotional comfort.


6 posted on 06/12/2014 7:03:19 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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The young boys who were introduced or sexually attacked, many times were used repeatedly and now have homosexuality imprinted. They become used to the act that involves someone younger and ignorant, even if that someone is no longer them.

It’s an evil cycle of punishment and shame, that can only be stopped when it is called for what it is and those who practice use their strength to make the moral choice to halt that choice. It is not love the sinner, hate the sin. The sin is committed by the sinner. They become one and the same.


8 posted on 06/12/2014 7:06:22 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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There is no, at least none that I can find, actual evidence that anyone is born homosexual. It is not and either or question


10 posted on 06/12/2014 7:07:47 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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Homosexuality is different in men and women. Much more wired in for men; wired in for some women, but more likely to be a choice.


11 posted on 06/12/2014 7:07:51 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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On the plus side, one can say anything one wants to about straight, white males from Judeo-Christian backgrounds. Anything. Any slander, calumny, lie or gripe.


13 posted on 06/12/2014 7:10:59 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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If you bring up diseases and just what games they play that cause them, expect armageddon!

I linked the CDC report on Hepatitis and challenged a homo to explain why 65% of new Hepatitis cases were homos. Of course, having the choice between claiming a lot of needle usage or feces consumption, he went silent.

14 posted on 06/12/2014 7:12:03 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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What issue is there where one can have an honest conversation with liberals?


15 posted on 06/12/2014 7:13:02 PM PDT by hometoroost
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There most assuredly are “haters.” The proper definition is the single issue zealots on the wacko side who hate anyone who fails to bow down to their beliefs.


17 posted on 06/12/2014 7:16:11 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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All right on.

Forcing me to affirmatively participate in another person's delusion will not cure their mental illness.

18 posted on 06/12/2014 7:17:01 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? ?)
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**A lot of gay Americans have had bad experiences with people who’ve treated them poorly because they’re gay. It’s unfair, it’s wrong, and it’s something that shouldn’t happen.**

And a whole lot more straight people have been not only unfairly treated, but harassed, bullied, sued, taunted, and put at risk because they're straight. And THAT'S something that shouldn't happen.

Let's tell the whole story.

21 posted on 06/12/2014 7:20:37 PM PDT by Paulie (Buy local, bank local, exert your influence locally; the left will fold like a cheap suit.)
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How about the basic: it is sin.

We are all sinners, but we are called to repent and turn from our sin.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Galatians 6:7-8 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.


Homosexuals, Gays, Sodomites, or whatever names they choose to go by need to know that they are continuing in sin without even trying to turn away from it. And the wages of sin is death. The second death. Where the soul is reunited with the body and cast into the eternal lake of fire. Forever. The warning must go out to those that are trapped in a sinful lifestyle - there is a judgment, and unless they repent and turn, they will be damned eternally.

Ezekiel 18:30c-32 ... Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin. Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel? For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.

There is a way out - but only on this side of the grave - come to Christ and beg for forgiveness and strength to turn from the clutches of Satan.

Psalms 66:18 If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me:

So turn from iniquity, and turn to Christ, so we can say:

Psalms 66:19-20 But verily God hath heard me; he hath attended to the voice of my prayer. Blessed be God, which hath not turned away my prayer, nor his mercy from me.

25 posted on 06/12/2014 7:40:52 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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In fact, if the Boy Scouts ever allowed gay Scoutmasters in their organization, it would kill them as dead as Disco

I don't know about that. The Boy Scouts might suddenly become popular in certain parts of the Country.

30 posted on 06/12/2014 8:01:34 PM PDT by BBell (The Blue Dog is Stupid)
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Here is what I don't get...

How come feminine men dont seek out butch lesbians for relationships?

if they prefer catching... why not just seek out a women who wishes to pitch who also wants to look and act like a man? it seems to me that a butch lesbian would be the perfect mate for a feminine man. Heck they could both get sex changes if they wished and not have to pretend.

34 posted on 06/12/2014 8:18:47 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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Unfortunately, a small subset of gay, liberal Americans wear their victimhood as a badge and believe it entitles them to oppress people who haven’t hurt them in any way.

It's a lot more that a "small subset".

A LOT more.
39 posted on 06/12/2014 8:43:57 PM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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It’s hard to have an honest conversation about gay issues because liberals treat anything other than outright celebration of all things gay as “hate.” That doesn’t leave people much room to discuss a complicated issue...yes it does - when are we going to stop letting the other side constantly define the terms of the discussion for us? - simply state that you are most certainly not advocating "hate" and then proceed to give your position, perhaps suggesting that the real hatemongers are those who try to silence all sides of an argument but their own......
40 posted on 06/12/2014 8:57:59 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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Since others have already added 6, 7, and 8, add this as #9 to the list:

The homosexuals have a stranglehold on the media, psychiatric, judicial, and advertising industries. This makes it possible for them to control the message and law enforcement regarding homosexuality.


42 posted on 06/12/2014 9:05:31 PM PDT by Vision Thing (obama wants his suicidal worshipers to become suicidal bombers.)
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Here is what Muslims do to homosexuals.

In February 1998, the Taliban, who once ruled in Afghanistan, ordered this punishment for three men convicted of sodomy:

On Wednesday, the Taliban ordered the execution of three men for sodomy in the southern town of Kandahar, southern Afghanistan. They were ordered to be buried alive under a pile of stones and a wall was pushed on top of them by a tank.

Their lives were to be spared if they survived for 30 minutes and were still alive when the stones were removed.

Simple and clear reason says that executing homosexuals is wrong today, but where do the Taliban get the punishment of pushing a wall on the guilty men? Also, the article reports that while the religious police were meting out a flogging on a woman for fornication, a speaker chanted, “Thanks to God that we are followers of God not of the West.” This devout Muslim understands the deeper, spiritual conflict—two religious systems are at work.

In its 1991 Constitution, Iran adopted the extreme punishment of execution for sodomy. Articles 108-113 say:

Sodomy is a crime, for which both partners are punished. The punishment is death if the participants are adults, of sound mind and consenting; the method of execution is for the Shari’a judge to decide.

Later on, the summary of the Constitution says that if the guilty repent, the judge may waive the penalty. But should this penalty exist in the first place? What is the source for this extreme law in the Iranian Constitution?

On April 7, 2005, it was reported that Saudi Arabia sentenced more than 100 men to prison or flogging for “gay conduct.”

On or about March 26, a Jeddah court, meeting in a closed session in which defense attorneys were excluded, sentenced 31 of the men to prison for six months to one year, and to 200 lashes each, for unreported offenses. Four other men received two years’ imprisonment and 2,000 lashes. Police released more than 70 of the men not long after their initial arrest; reports in the Saudi press suggested that personal contacts with the government had intervened on their behalf. However, on April 3, police summoned the 70 men back to a local police station and informed them that they had been sentenced to one year’s imprisonment.

Arrest and imprisonment and / or flogging for “gay conduct”? Why? Have these radical judges left Islam?

Execution, flogging, and toppling a wall on homosexuals come from the reliable hadith and later legal rulings in Islam. They sit at its core. Execution and flogging may also come from the Quran itself.

To explain how these extremes are embedded in Islam and how Christianity offers a better solution, this article is divided up into three large sections: Islam, Christianity, and an Application, including supplemental material.

The main section “Islam” is subdivided into three sections: the Quran, the hadith, and classical legal rulings. When we analyze the Quran, we also provide the historical and literary contexts of the target verse, in order to avoid the standard, reflexive “out of context” defense from Muslims apologists (defenders).


45 posted on 06/12/2014 9:15:06 PM PDT by hapnHal (hapnHal)
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