Posted on 06/08/2014 4:00:42 AM PDT by marktwain
Appleseed, Great Program.
Ammoman’s only 22LR is $0.28 a round. http://www.ammoman.com/22-long-rifle
They have their good points, but there is no evidence there that the shortage is almost over.
They are in mine with the exception of 22LR and 22MRF. No question about it. Full.
I get .40cal, .45 cal, 5.56 & 7.62...standard shipment for what I need. I have a couple of bricks of .22 already - but that’s not for defense...the prices are good from a reliable person that i have multiple orders with over yrs...I trust the guy for what it is...sometimes a little extra $ knowing the ammo is coming from a reputable dealer means more than the bottom penny...I think .22 is over rated right now and the supply production isn’t going to increase anytime soon...so buy the serious rds now and wait out the .22 situation...
Go look at Ammoseek.com. There were 4 suppliers that were selling 22LR at .10 per round, and about 5 or 6 in the .11 per round range....still about double what they should be, though.
$10 for 500 rounds of .22LR sounds great. Sign me up. Last time I went to a gun show the best price I found was $32 for 50 rounds of CCI Mini Mag .22LR. I haven’t seen it at Wal-Mart in over 2 years.
Couldn’t find brass-cartridge 9mm for my SIL’s birthday present to save my life, but did find steel-jacket for $12 at Wally World. A significant price drop from a year ago.
Thank you for this. I enjoyed it greatly. 4 million rounds a day in that one plant (CCI)!
I think that when demand is high (or crazy high as it has been during the 0bama panic) the manufacturers are going to prioritize whichever product lines give them the most profit. I can’t say I blame them — if they are going to ramp up *everything* and paddle like crazy to try and keep up with the raging current in the market, it has to be darn well worth the increased supply costs and having to hire additional labor and/or run extra production shifts.
A big part of the problem, if not “The Biggest” (my stinky personal opinion) is we “The Consumers”. It’s funny this topic came up because just yesterday I was in Wally-World for the first time in well over 6 months (I try to avoid the place) and their ammo case was *well* stocked with centerfire of all flavors at lower prices than I last remember — except for rimfire. They didn’t have a single round of .22LR rimfire in the cabinet. I asked the lady about it and she said that whenever they get .22LR in, they limit it to 3 boxes per customer but it makes no difference. A crowd will show up and buy it as quick as they can put it on the shelf.
Another (purely anecdotal) clue: My local gun store told me they were talking one on one with a manufacturing rep for “one of the big three” rimfire manufacturers (wouldn’t say which one). The rep told them that if he went into a company meeting and urged his company to ramp up .22 production, he’d get fired on the spot. Basically, they know full well that folks are hoarding it and causing the increase in demand and they have no incentive to try to satisfy the demand and decrease their profit margin on a product that normally has a relatively thin margin. They are prioritized on centerfire, centerfire, centerfire. Or an over-simplified way to view it is that the rimfire ammo producers are responding rationally to an irrational consumer demand for a low-margin product that will eventually return to normal demand levels.
I don’t think there is an easy answer other than to get that jackass out of our White House so that the hoarders who continue to eagerly buy from fokls RE-Selling at jacked-up prices on gunbroker and the like, will regain their senses and knock it off. So, I agree the govt gets a big chunk of the blame for driving the prices up, but I believe it’s more due to merely instilling panic and fear in folks who are too easily prompted to over-buy what they would otherwise normally buy, skyrocketing the demand to crazy levels. I can empathize with their fears, but I just wish they would stop once they hit 10,000 rounds, or whatever gawd-awful amount of ammo they have stored up.
I was reading some forum the other day and a guy (could have been a girl - who knows nowadays) was talking about having 100,000 rounds of .22LR stored up. Now, he could have been full of bull-mess and just trying to sound impressive, but I really, *really* hope that there are very few like him (even if hoarding half as much), if we ever want to see .22’s return to pre-panic price levels.
Just think about it. If one is a gun collector, he’d have, say, maybe over a hundred guns. Now, what’s a good number for rounds on hand per gun? 1000? That’s 100 thousand rounds. There really are people out there that have that many.
You really don’t understand the point of the article do you?
You are so intent on making conspiracy theories about every thing that the idea of a market response is beyond you.
Out of curiosity how much 22 ammo do you stock pile?
Are you aware that all ammo becomes less effective with age?
Yep, my fav 5.56 Federal Lake City M193 is already back down to 35 cents/rd.
(on-line)
Waiting for the Win 30-30 to drop before buying again.
No actually there doesn’t
And that is not what is driving shortages. NEW gun buyers who have NO idea how much ammunition they will ever use or need. Some of these yobs will buy their ‘supplies’, store them improperly, and then be surprised IF they ever actually fire the weapon.
There has been a lot of weapons buying based on fear and those folks will not do the things that responsible gun owners do.
There may well be some folks with a 100 or more guns. That number is fewer than most would think and most likely involves private dealers etc. I know gun enthusiasts who are collectors and avid shooters and hunters.....IF they have 25 or 30 I would be amazed.
I agree I don’t think it is over any time soon. In Dec 2012 I placed several orders on Sportsman’s Guide specifically for .22LR. Immediately AFTER placing the order they all went on backorder status. I’d see the Estimated Time of Availability listed which was only a few weeks out. Well, once that time came the date got pushed back but this time a couple of MONTHS. Then when that time came the date got pushed back SEVERAL months. Then when that time came it got pushed back SEVERAL months again. In between all of these updated availability dates, you’d receive an email that if you didn’t confirm within 10 days they cancel that specific item for your order. You’d receive individual emails for specific backordered items on an order. If I had 3-4 types of ammo on 1 order, I would receive 3-4 emails JUST for that order alone. It seemed like every month I would get one of these emails. I had to have had at least 10 orders in total and 90% of it was for .22LR. Fast forward to March of 2014 and I receive a cancellation notice for ALL the orders that were waiting for .22LR. So not only did I not receive any ammo after waiting over a year, I had the BS of keeping track of all backorder items and compliantly confirming I wanted them every month for each item and the $29.99 membership to save 5% on ammo was expired at the end of this backorder waiting period and I wasn’t able to even get that refunded to me. I am done with Sportsman’s Guide and their bait and switch schemes. They’ll let you order items that appear to be in stock, but then once you pay, they show up as backordered items. To me that is shady. AVOID!
I never did say it was ‘the’ cause of the shortage. I was commenting on the comment about the owner that had 100,000 rounds and equating that with something about which I do have some knowledge.
Or just go to Alberta and pay 25 bucks for boxes of 550. Winchester.
That’s not a bad price for 223. I sold my rifles in that calibre though. I prefer robinson arms in .308 for my main rifle, in all my years running around as tip of the spear, I’ve never used any rifle so nice as that one.
The Walmart closest to me has no rifle or pistol ammo, only shotgun shells. And it has been that way for two years.
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