Victoria Nuland [Obama Administration] Accused of Meeting With Neofascists in Washington

FireDogLake ^ | 5/19/2014 | DSWright

[Laissez-faire capitalist]

In an interview with Bloomberg News [URL at link], Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov asserted that Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Victoria Nuland had meetings with the Ukrainian neofascist group Right Sector in Washington DC. The Right Sector has been involved in numerous killings including the burning of pro-Russian supporters in Odessa.

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Whether Nuland met with Artyomenko or any other representative of the Right Sector to help with fundraising and support is unknown. What is known is that the US is supporting the gang in Kiev's "interim government" which includes Svoboda an openly neofascist party which aligns itself historically and currently with the principles of Hitler's Nazi party.

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[kcvl]

Nuland is the daughter of Yale bioethics and medicine professor Sherwin B. Nuland, whose original surname was Nudelman. Victoria’s paternal grandfather was Meyer Nudelman from a family of Jewish immigrants who came to New York City from the Russian Empire.

Victoria Nuland graduated from Choate Rosemary Hall in 1979 and has a B.A. from Brown University. Nuland speaks Russian, French, and a little Chinese. Nuland has two children. Nuland’s husband is historian Robert Kagan, Council on Foreign Relations member, and co-founder of the think-tank "Project for the New American Century" (PNAC).

During the Bill Clinton administration, Nuland was chief of staff to Deputy Secretary of State Strobe Talbott before moving on to serve as deputy director for former Soviet Union affairs.

Nuland became special envoy for Conventional Armed Forces in Europe and then became State Department spokesperson in summer 2011.

During her confirmation hearings, she faced "sharp questions" about a memo she had sent outlining the talking points that would be used by the Obama administration in the days shortly after the 2012 Benghazi attack.

[Laissez-faire capitalist]

It isn’t my article, genius.

That statement destroys your claims.

But go back to defending Obama either directly or indirectly.

I, as I have shown, don’t care for Putin or Obama, unlike you.

As well, the article, not mine, says that Right Sector was INVOLVED in the burning of Odessa.

I said civilians were involved, but I never said that Right Sector wasn’t involved.

Look again at the article:

Right Sector isn’t civilians? So you are saying that they are an actual, verified, gov’t-sanctioned and Kiev-recognized part of the Ukrainian military?

[Laissez-faire capitalist]

Just wait until some here start defending her...

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

Don’t believe your own lying eyes that the guys using Nazi slogans, Nazi Salutes, Nazi Imagery, Nazi flags, and celebrating the Nazi’s/Bandera while using Nazi tactics are Nazi’s.

Liar, and I call you a liar since you do the same to all your opponents. You know as well as I do that I didn't deny the existance of "Nazis" in Ukraine. I simply relegated them to minority status, which is the truth, explained how they're anti-EU and anti-West in general, which is also true, and how a totally moderate politican with likely dangerous sympathies for Moscow will likely be the next President in your "Nazi" country.

There is obvious cognitive dissonance to be had with facing this reality.

[Laissez-faire capitalist]

Yep.

These are not the droids you are looking for.

Don’t pay any attention to that man behind the curtain!

Amazing how troll doesn’t even remember how “football fans,” Right Sector, and by-standing civilians (not with either of those two) have been accused of being involved in burning the Odessa building.

Too complex for troll, I guess.

Best if troll talks to Merkel and Hollande first...

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

You say what you say in this post after calling people Putinistas?

What's wrong with that, thou hypocrite? You act like this is our first rodeo. If you get to call me Pro-Obama because I am anti-communist and want freedom for the Ukrainian people, I can certainly describe you bozos as Putinists, which is what you are.

Yes, the Kremlin lies, but why won’t you admit that the Obama administration may,

More of this constant distortion? Where did I say that Obama does not lie? I even said that I oppose international communism EVERYWHERE, I therefore, naturally, consider Obama to be another lying link in the chain, of which the Kremlin is a part of too. If you confess that the Kremlin lies (and they lie like they breath), then you ought to stop trying to defend everything that comes out of Moscow as Gospel, eh?

may be so rotten that they will meet with Right Sector?

Which brings us back to the original point. If Obama and Soros are in on a conspiracy to bring Ukraine into the evil grasp of the EU, why would Obama meet with a minority party of anti-EU/US radicals?

Think man, think!

[Lee'sGhost]

From the headline I thought this was just about Obama calling a cabinet meeting.

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

Amazing how troll doesn’t even remember how “football fans,” Right Sector, and by-standing civilians (not with either of those two) have been accused of being involved in burning the Odessa building.

Where did I say the people who I just got done saying burned to hell some guys who shot at them with machine guns, were not involved in the retaliation? Obviously, if I acknowledge they retaliated, and if you confess that "both sides were wrong," and I did not object, what could possess you to then accuse me of believing the opposite? Now, I do disagree with your characterization of them as "Right Sector," since the crowd was rather huge and was indeed a Unity March, one that had been planned and not even the first one, of SOCCER FANS after a game. You have no way you can possibly accuse every single individual there of being a card carrying Right Sector member. Either way, it is irrelevant, since you equated the other side already with "Right Sector" in the first place. We've made such beautiful progress, so why go back to the old "No, innocent people were roasted to death while they sang kum by ya!" nonsense?

[tcrlaf]

“Minority Status”, such as running the coup government, and acting as NKVD units for the Army.
You’ve become a cartoon character.

Question: Who do YOU support in the Ukraine Prez election?

[caww]

Interesting that Putin is indeed moving troops away from the Russian/Ukraine border to their bases, including tanks etc....but US officials continue to say they cannot see any evidence of movement..............The degree of our Officials denial is astounding...even when proof is given and confirmed from many other International sources.

I think Obama will do everything possible to make certain the US people do ‘NOT’ see his hand in the entire crisis in Ukriane. ...nor the Representatives operating in and directing the Kiev Government.......Further will continue to insist MSM carry the anti-Russian theme at every turn.

I was stunned when covering Egypt of the US involvement with the Muslim Brotherhood..and then later the Islamists terrorists there.... and in Syria thereafter.....but with Ukraine they are so far off the page of reality of what is happening there that’s it’s beyond stunning.

[caww]

Interesting that Putin is indeed moving troops away from the Russian/Ukraine border to their bases, including tanks etc....but US officials continue to say they cannot see any evidence of movement..............The degree of our Officials denial is astounding...even when proof is given and confirmed from many other International sources.

I think Obama will do everything possible to make certain the US people do ‘NOT’ see his hand in the entire crisis in Ukriane. ...nor the Representatives operating in and directing the Kiev Government.......Further will continue to insist MSM carry the anti-Russian theme at every turn.

I was stunned when covering Egypt of the US involvement with the Muslim Brotherhood..and then later the Islamists terrorists there.... and in Syria thereafter.....but with Ukraine they are so far off the page of reality of what is happening there that’s it’s beyond stunning.

[tcrlaf]

LOl...
Listen to yourself.
You must be a real hoot at the EuroMaidanPR Propaganda after-meeting get togethers.

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

“Minority Status”, such as running the coup government, and acting as NKVD units for the Army.

How many times have you repeated this lie and refused to defend it? Please name each and every member of Right Sector in the Ukrainian interim government, and please explain how the Interim government is NOT the same Ukrainian Rada that was democratically elected in 2012? And also explain the elections coming up later this month where the top candidate is NOT Right Sector or Svoboda? And what kind of coup government leaves the actual government in place and then declares elections!?

Question: Who do YOU support in the Ukraine Prez election?

None of them, they are all old characters who are likely secret agents of Moscow, even the moderate Pro-Westerner. My hope is that the Ukrainian people themselves will fight valiantly for their freedoms, whatever Moscow springs on them next.

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

Interesting that Putin is indeed moving troops away from the Russian/Ukraine border to their bases, including tanks etc....but US officials continue to say they cannot see any evidence of movement..............The degree of our Officials denial is astounding...even when proof is given and confirmed from many other International sources.

The last stooge of the Putinista trio has arrived. Remember that Putin already said that he had pulled his military back from the border and removed them back to their "permanent bases." How do you explain that he is giving the same order a second, separate time? And you talk about denial?

[little jeremiah]

Verrry interesting. Once underlings start getting thrown under the bus at a great rate, it’s only a matter of ticking time before someone outs the boss.

[caww]

Fortunately I don't have to explain anything to minds entrenched in the Cold War Mentality. Least of all those who have another agenda of their own which certainly appears to be preventing any dialog about Ukraine.

You know the saying.."If the shoe fits...etc."

How they vote in Kiev Rada Government...from the top down

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

Fortunately I don't have to explain anything to minds entrenched in the Cold War Mentality. Least of all those who have another agenda of their own which certainly appears to be preventing any dialog about Ukraine.

I have the agenda and yet you expect us to have such short memories that we forget how many times Putin has claimed he already moved his troops from the border? Because "dialogue" consists of kissing up to the Kremlin and demonizing Ukraine as "Nazis", I guess.

By the way, I don't know where you got that photo (I can't find any source that has context, except for one twitter post from a Russkie who has her twitter feed painted in Nazi imagery), but at least Ukraine has a parliament with multiple opposing parties. In Moscow, the voting fraud is so spectacular they barely even pretend anymore.

[tennmountainman]

No. I mean she is a habitual liar, like Hillary.

[caww]

Yea... yea... yea......same ol’ crap as before....Guess you can’t help being stuck with your mindset as there has to be a will to know what’s really happening rather than how one wants it to be.

If you look you will see the troops are moving....if you look you will see the Nazi’s actively participating in Ukraine....

The photo was taken from a video where the guy was going row to row pushing votes in every vacant seat....you are certainly free to do your own research.