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Do We Dare Elect A Republican President In 2016?
ClashDaily.com ^ | 5/7/14 | Donald Joy

Posted on 05/08/2014 8:25:20 AM PDT by IChing

The other day I was talking to my friend, Steve, about politics. I met Steve in 2008, when we had both volunteered to work on the McCain-Palin campaign. At that time, Steve and I wound up doing frequent door-to-door canvassing together, and feverishly working the phone banks for the national, state, and local races. We both soon became GOP precinct captains of our adjoining respective areas, and even though I later moved a short distance away, we have stayed in close contact ever since, occasionally reuniting to volunteer on campaigns, attending political meetings and events, and talking on the phone quite often.

Steve is self-employed. He makes his living by studying the financial markets and publishing a specialized newsletter, for which his subscribers around the world pay him to advise them on financial forecasting.

So I’m on the phone with Steve recently, and as usual the topic of the 2016 presidential election came up. Steve hit me with an intriguing (although somewhat troubling) concept which I have not been able to shake from my skull since that day he suggested it.

My friend argued that Republicans should just let the Democrat party keep the White House in 2016; deliberately throw the election to whoever the Democrats nominate.

His reasoning went along the following lines: A horrible economic reckoning is coming, and the masses and the media will lay the blame for it on whoever/whichever party holds the presidency when it hits.

According to Steve’s analysis–based on market trends, key indicators, debt/GDP projections, and mathematical models with which many other experts agree–the worst of the bad economic policy chickens of the Obama administration (along with, finally, those of LBJ’s “Great Society” and various other mostly Democrat fiscal train wrecks) will come home to roost after Obama completes his second term and is gone from office. Things will get very bad, and very ugly.

Furthermore, the next president–no matter how wise, moral, and strong of character–will not be able to really do anything to help the situation enough to avert profound and widespread calamity, due to its far-reaching roots and tentacles, and its severity. Any and all manner of market collapses and fiscal disasters will take place, and the “low-information voter(LIV)” crowd will of course associate it all–rightly or wrongly–with whichever party’s president happens to be “holding the bag” at the time.

That is, whoever occupies the White House, when the corrupt spigot of fake entitlement money/benefits starts to sputter and run dry, and even more millions are thrown out of work than already have been, will be seen as the chief culprit.

Do Republicans really want to be anywhere near the scene of that crime, if and when such an economic doomsday scenario comes around?

Steve’s argument really gave me pause. Of course, I had already been exposed to theories about how the GOP shot-callers hadn’t really wanted to win presidential elections before. The conspiracy-theory concept of throwing an election isn’t new. It’s just that I’d never really contemplated that it might actually be a good idea, for longer-term prospects of emerging as the party of genuine reform and recovery, without misplaced stigma and blame.

Have I (and others) been a bit naive all along?

The teeming throngs of millions of average, everyday voters simply do not follow politics as closely as do most of you who are reading this. They largely don’t vote (or don’t actually scrutinize the issues/candidates) in mid-term elections for House of Representatives and Senate seats. Millions of them vote only every four years when the presidency is at stake. So notwithstanding GOP ambitions for winning back the senate this November, doing harm reduction tactics against Obamacare and so forth–can Republicans afford, politically and for the sake of the next generation to follow the reckoning, to have one of ours at the helm of this particular ship of state, this Titanic?

As a country, we have incurred insane debts which are mathematically impossible to ever pay off. Despite our being the most productive nation on the planet, we simply cannot produce enough, even if we somehow miraculously enact spending moratoriums, to ever catch up with the runaway interest and payments on the staggeringly unfathomable amounts we’ve borrowed and spent.

Perhaps, once the party’s really over and the horrific hangover and delirium tremens set in, it’s best that the low-information voters who are finally, rudely jolted awake get a good, long look at the kind of politician who has never met a spending increase or entitlement program he or she didn’t like. Maybe the person appearing on their screens, pleading for calm and for an end to the rioting–and appropriately bearing the brunt of all the blame for it–should have the Democrat brand all over her (or his) face and name.

Just a thought.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2016; gop; president2016; presidentialelection
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To: IChing

A republican no, a conservative yes.


21 posted on 05/08/2014 8:45:35 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: GraceG; TexasFreeper2009

Hard Truth Bump.

2 Chronicles 7:14


22 posted on 05/08/2014 9:00:57 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
So there is nothing a GOP president can do, to alleviate the situation, if elected in 2016?

I don't know if I buy into the idea of a collapse but if it happened on republican President's watch just think of Herbert Hoover to the nth degree.

23 posted on 05/08/2014 9:03:01 AM PDT by pgkdan
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To: IChing

I think Hilary wins no matter what...and the folks peddling the economic sky is falling BS have been doing so all of my adult life and they are always wrong as to their forecasts but they always make money, something along the lines of what PT Barnum once said.


24 posted on 05/08/2014 9:08:02 AM PDT by montanajoe
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To: IChing

His reasoning went along the following lines: A horrible economic reckoning is coming, and the masses and the media will lay the blame for it on whoever/whichever party holds the presidency when it hits.
BS the media has given Obama a free ride for the last five years also only Republicans are elected the democrats get selected see JFK and Obama.


25 posted on 05/08/2014 9:20:43 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Dilbert San Diego
So there is nothing a GOP president can do, to alleviate the situation, if elected in 2016?

Ah yes, grasshopper. There is. JEB! will be our next president, as sickening as that thought might be.

He will run as the anti-Obama ("Remember the good old days when unemployment was below 5%?"). When he is firmly entrenched in the Oval Office, he will announce that things were so screwed up under Obuttboy that the only way we can save America is join in a one-world currency.

"Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws!" - Mayer Rothschild

This is what the elites have always wanted and America will welcome it! In so doing, we will be welcoming our own degradation and servitude.

26 posted on 05/08/2014 9:27:53 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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To: pgkdan; All

Satan won the right to walk the earth and have power over the earth. He is very busy. America is losing or has lost out love and faith in God Almighty. Read Revelations and mull it over for awhile.

God has made commandments to live by and for believers to have a good life. So did Jesus Christ. Still we are deceived and fail to follow what it is we say we believe.

Faith is weak for many. We have not turned to God in faith and trust and actions. Revelations and connected passages all through the Holy Bible show and tell about devastation, punishment, terror, and more. We are at choice. Get right with God, quickly. Seek forgiveness, and repent of evil In Jesus name, amen.


27 posted on 05/08/2014 9:37:40 AM PDT by geologist ("If you love me, keep my commands" .... John 14 :15)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
"So there is nothing a GOP president can do, to alleviate the situation, if elected in 2016?"

Nope. The USA has crossed the Rubicon.

28 posted on 05/08/2014 9:39:48 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: IChing
...it’s best that the low-information voters who are finally, rudely jolted awake get a good, long look at the kind of politician who has never met a spending increase or entitlement program he or she didn’t like.

So when that happens how will that help the Republicans?

29 posted on 05/08/2014 9:43:21 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: IChing

No. No. No.


30 posted on 05/08/2014 9:48:00 AM PDT by kidd
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To: IChing

The RINOs are planning to throw it anyway, and various so-called conservatives will help them because they despise the Tea Party


31 posted on 05/08/2014 9:53:14 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: thesearethetimes...

if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land.


32 posted on 05/08/2014 9:59:03 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: kidd

No, as in no we don’t dare elect a republican?


33 posted on 05/08/2014 10:58:34 AM PDT by IChing
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To: IChing
Here's the problem..the majority in country is so dumbed down that will believe what they are told.

The control the entertainment so people take there daily dose on propaganda willing ..they will not buck the group think and be and outcast. .. The education system is designed to not give you tools to think on your own ..it proselytize for the lefts ideal of the moment. The news is not news..it is party line.

34 posted on 05/08/2014 11:09:05 AM PDT by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more.)
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To: IChing
Steve is self-employed. He makes his living by studying the financial markets and publishing a specialized newsletter, for which his subscribers around the world pay him to advise them on financial forecasting.

Based on Steve's political forecasting, I would RUN fast and far away from his financial forecasting.

35 posted on 05/08/2014 12:41:45 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: IChing

I’m to a point that if it is not a conservative I am not voting for the candidate. Not after the way the establishment has treated conservative candidates. Less and Less interest in a Republican winning. Conservative or bust.


36 posted on 05/24/2014 12:50:39 AM PDT by Mozilla
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To: IChing
Garbage!

Impossible to pull off, anyway, far too many would have to be in on such a pact. It would be common knowledge, hence neutralized by the MSM.

Remember, as far as the Democrat Party is concerned, the cure for liberalism's failures is invariably more liberalism!

E.g., ObamaCare falls flat on its face? Does this mean we need a free-market approach? Of course not! The 'tards will argue (and the MSM will back them up) that it's the fault of the evil greedy capitalist doctors and insurance companies, and the remedy is Single Payer, just as the Hildebeest wanted way back when!

Losing in 2016 is just another step towards Argentina or Venezuela.

37 posted on 05/24/2014 1:27:42 AM PDT by cynwoody
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