Posted on 03/19/2014 10:54:20 AM PDT by mandaladon
If the United States wants to avoid falling like the Roman Empire, it must avoid overconsumption and distribute resources equally, according to a study funded by NASA.
The fall of the Roman Empire, and the equally (if not more) advanced Han, Mauryan, and Gupta Empires, as well as so many advanced Mesopotamian Empires, are all testimony to the fact that advanced, sophisticated, complex, and creative civilizations can be both fragile and impermanent, reads the NASA-funded report published in the Ecological Economics journal.
Two important features seem to appear across societies that have collapsed, the study adds. The stretching of resources due to the strain placed on the ecological carrying capacity and the economic stratification of society into Elites and Masses.
The NASA study uses a Human And Nature DYnamical (HANDY) formula to provide a general framework that allows carrying out thought experiments for the phenomenon of collapse and to test changes that would avoid it. In other words, the model only takes into account general characteristics of fallen civilizations, and not the specifics.
What did the study find? That collapse is hard to avoid in unequal societies as [e]lites grow and consume too much, resulting in a famine among Commoners that eventually causes the collapse of society.
Limits on resources harm the working class, while the wealthy are largely insulated from the problem, meaning resources continue to be used without regard to the cost to society. For example, an increase in vehicle fuel efficiency technology tends to enable increased per capita vehicle miles driven, heavier cars, and higher average speeds, which then negate the gains from the increased fuel-efficiency.
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Second, the idiot(s) doing this study haven't looked much at recent history where communism has always failed economically and quickly becomes a totalitarian state..examples Cuba and North Korea.
Not long ago I had a discussion with my father in law. He trotted out the old tired lib line about how more people have died in the name of religion and blah blah barf. I simply couldn’t take it anymore. I told him that more people have died at the hands if godless regimes just in the last century than ever before in human history, and cited the numbers. He didn’t have much to say after that.
The next real, true conservative President needs to gut NASA and get rid of all the political idiots and get back to basic space research.
Frankly this should happen with every agency. Back to basics or get rid of it and stop wasting our tax dollars on crap “studies” and producing propaganda (brought to you by The Ad Council).
Name me one Communist nation who has put man on the moon even once. Name me even one Communist nations who's technologies of space science directly benefited the citizens of that nation. The United States once had a great space program because we are a free nation and because of the heroic efforts of a free people. Last but not least lets not forget the many secretive FAILURES of Communist nations space programs.
Why is the Obama Administration being allowed to use even NASA to further Obama's Communists Agenda as yet another tax payer funded Obama Propaganda Agency?
If the United States wants to avoid falling like the Roman Empire, it must avoid overconsumptionI agree and if this report, coming from NASA, isn't an exaple of "overconsumption" I don't know what is.
We should start by defunding NASA...NOW!
Well, just look around the world and see how successful communist countries are. There is the rich and progressive North Korea, Venezuela is a close second and don’t overlook Vietnam....who are these idiots and why is NASA funding them???
Actually, if there are a majority of russian speakers
on the ISS, it will be declared Russian territory to
protect them from capitalist discrimination.
They will be glad to give any non russian speakers
a lift home.
Why is the Obama Administration being allowed to use even NASA to further Obama’s Communists Agenda as yet another tax payer funded Obama Propaganda Agency?
Because that is how socialism propagates,
your children are already being indoctrinated,
your government has already been subverted
and every instrment of government has socialists
guiding the construction of a further socialist state.
I am 75, I was there at the time, from Wisconsin even, and I have maintaained since the "army-McCarthy hearings" that he was right...it is proven over and over...The Obama administration looks like a page out of Saul Alinski's book. It is frightening to witness what that man has done to destroy so much of our country.
Both of them?????
Worked for China
NASA is a perfect example of a government bureaucracy who’s time is long past. Like any government bureaucracy though, it lives on as a shell of it’s former self wasting millions in the process.
as a contractor, I trimmed out a wood ceiling with steel I beams. they paid $1000 per gallon for paint that supposedly stopped radiant heat transfer. designed by NASA.
Certainly segments of NASA have, if they ever had any usefulness to begin with. The environmental alarmists are making a mockery out of the organization and should have been expelled from it a long time ago for corruption and for embarrassing the rest of NASA. JPL, JSC, KSC, and a few others are still vitally important to the future of our nation. If funding were diverted from Hansen’s clan to them we might actually get somewhere.
I had to make sure I wasn't hallucinating.
I kept looking in the article for evidence this wasn't the real NASA.
Some acronym that was made up that was NOT the agency that put a man on the moon.
Nope, it's our NASA all right.
WTF are they DOING with our tax dollars putting out garbage like this?
If I wanted a "lecture" about socialism and the environment, I'd look up EPA on the web. Or tune to some Al Gore speech. Maybe read a Greenpeace leaflet.
NASA has no business whatsoever wasting a single dollar on such dreck.
NASA’s a bad joke.
Pyongyang:
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