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Well another fine kettle of fish we ned to keep an eye on.
1 posted on 03/11/2014 4:58:32 PM PDT by Kartographer
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2 posted on 03/11/2014 4:59:17 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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The antidote is called a Faraday cage. All good preppers keep sensitive electronics in it. And keeping a spare computer and ignition box for your F150 in there is a great idea as well.


3 posted on 03/11/2014 5:03:05 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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Sound far-fetched? It did not in 1993 to the owners of automobiles parked about 300 meters from a U.S. Defense Contractor’s EMP generator test site at Eglin Air Force Base in Florida. Their alternators and electronic engine controls were accidentally fried by a pulse during classified field trials.

Yes it does sounds far fetched. A modern alternator shouldn't fry any more than one from a `68 Ford.

As far as other engine controls go, the engine compartment of an automobile is an extremely harsh environment. Perhaps if there was already a grounding problem something might get cooked. If the grounding is good, why should it cook? Since when do repair shops take great precautions when welding on a vehicle?

5 posted on 03/11/2014 5:09:59 PM PDT by fso301
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Radar could knock out some engines and radios also. High power lines could knock out some of the earl high energy ignitions but I think that has been fixed. Popular Science had an article on how to build your own EMP bomb with high explosives in the 70’s.

I wonder if a hacker could get into the plane's computer and shut off the pilots and take over the plane?

6 posted on 03/11/2014 5:11:30 PM PDT by mountainlion
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I see a pic from satellite image that looks like a 777

http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/malaysiaairsar2014

10 posted on 03/11/2014 5:18:12 PM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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Terrorists now have an airliner the size of any other massive bomber. It will be painted as a domestic airliner and flown over a major city, at which point we will discover if they truly have a nuclear device or a "dirty nuke" type weapon. Maybe even a bio/chem agent...

Either way, this level of silence from government? You know it's deep doo-doo.

Like, maybe it's "already happened"...

11 posted on 03/11/2014 5:19:07 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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http://www.aipnews.com/talk/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=18224

Diehl...German Briefcase EMP device

Figure 2-6 (above) of the Meta-R-323 report shows a picture of a German-made “briefcase weapon” that can produce a directed EMP beam. That weapon was demonstrated in 2004. If such a weapon was revealed openly six years ago, then it is entirely possible for a foreign government to have such a directed-EMP weapon that could be mounted aboard a submarine. In the introduction of that same report, it asserts that an aircraft fire aboard the aircraft carrier USS Forrestal during the Vietnam War was caused when a radar antenna was accidentally directed at a fighter aircraft, and then that aircraft’s weapon system accidentally fired its missile at another fighter jet on the flight deck. (This was the fire that burned now-Senator John McCain.) If a crude and accidental EMP incident could trigger an unintentional missile launch more than 40 years ago, then an intentional EMP incident using the most modern technology could cripple a cruise ship today. And, if a naval vessel is equipped with the same electrical system as the cruise ship, then the naval vessel would be equally vulnerable.


16 posted on 03/11/2014 5:26:00 PM PDT by wxgesr (I wanna bodysurf in the Black Sea)
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Transponder was off, ACARS was off, plane makes a big left turn.....and “disappears”....

Yeah, it was an EMP weapon. Or maybe a UFO!

Occam’s razor is still sharp.


19 posted on 03/11/2014 5:29:08 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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They have plans how to make one of these on the internet - hardest part to find is the REALLY BIG capacitor you need ...


22 posted on 03/11/2014 5:35:38 PM PDT by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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ready to point at the computers of your favorite enemy.


28 posted on 03/11/2014 5:41:54 PM PDT by Hugin
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Or maybe...just maybe Malaysia f***ing Airlines didn’t properly maintain an incredibly complex aircraft and it failed the way incredibly complex systems do when neglected.


30 posted on 03/11/2014 5:52:01 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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36 posted on 03/11/2014 5:59:13 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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The Diehl company briefcase sized EMP weapon can be purchased for around $40K.

Easily timed and stored in baggage or even carried onboard and stowed in the overhead near the CPUs.

Lights out, no connection to the outside world, all instrumentation, flight controls, no nada....

Can these planes be flown dead stick?


42 posted on 03/11/2014 6:31:41 PM PDT by wxgesr (I wanna bodysurf in the Black Sea)
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Problem is, if you let off an EMP it would be instantaneously detectable. The whole world outside the affected area would know within about 15 minutes. It’s immediately detectable by satellite.


63 posted on 03/12/2014 5:08:01 AM PDT by GAFreedom (Freedom rings in GA!)
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The ignorance on this thread re EMP is a little disturbing. Not using the word in a derogatory manner...ignorance is just that you don’t know.

In short, EMP fries microprocessors. They are in almost everything. Beyond that, I hope folks will do a little reading.

In the meantime, here’s something to digest. Note the date and then contemplate the advances.

Executive Intelligence Review

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PRESS RELEASE
Russians Hail EMP/Beam-Weapon Breakthrough

May 12, 2007 (EIRNS)—The work of Russian scientists in developing electromagnetic pulses (EMP) to be used against enemy military equipment, “surpasses foreign counterparts by 10 times,” according to a report published yesterday by the Russian news agency Novosti.

The report, by an academic advisor at the Academy of Engineering Sciences, Yuriy Zaitsev, speaks of a breakthrough in relativistic high-precision electronics, with miltiary applications, that “has no counterparts in the world.”

Development of EMP effect weapons for neutralizing electronic communications devices, and high-energy beam weapons which can be used for anti-missile, anti-satellite and anti-personnel applications, was a key part of the Ogarkov war plan which the Soviet Union had pursued in the 1980s.

According to Zaitsev, scientists in several places in Russia have developed generators which can produce brief, high-energy pulses of hundreds and even thousands of megawatts, the equivalent of the electric power output of a modern nuclear plant. The impulses can be generated at a very high frequency. These “super-powerful pulse generators” are small in size, and have “unique physical properties [which] make their sphere of application extremely wide,” Zaitsev wrote.

The first high-current electron accelerators were developed in the Soviet Union in the 1960s, according to Gennadiy Mesyats, who is Vice President of the Russian Academy of Sciences. A decade later, scientists could generate powerful microwave nanosecond pulses.

Scientists reported their new results to the Academy of Sciences at the beginning of 2007. The generators can be used in “long-range high-resolution impulse-based radiolocation and in studies of non-thermal impact of powerful electromagnetic fields on radio electronic components and different biological species.”


68 posted on 03/12/2014 8:20:18 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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