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The Five Worst Fighter Aircraft of All Time
National Interest - Commentary ^ | 1-11-2013 | Robert Farley

Posted on 01/11/2014 8:25:52 AM PST by Sir Napsalot

Over the last century of military aviation, several fighters have earned the nickname “flying coffin.” Military aviation inherently pushes up against the limits of technology and human endurance, particularly where fighter and pursuit aviation is concerned. Flying a fighter is remarkably dangerous, even when no one is trying to shoot you down.

Engineering a capable fighter plane is also a struggle. Relatively small changes in engine, armament, and airframe design can transform a clunker into an elite fighting machine; many of the best fighters in history were initially viewed askance by their pilots. But elite status rarely lasts for long, especially in World War I and World War II. Fighters that dominated the sky in one year become “flying coffins” as technology and tactics move forward.

And thus the difference between a great fighter and a terrible fighter can be remarkably small. As with the previous list, the critical work is in determining the criteria. Fighters are national strategic assets, and must be evaluated as such:

· Did this aircraft fail at the tactical tasks that it was given? Did it perform poorly against its direct contemporaries?

· Did the fighter show up, or was it in the hangar when it was needed? Was it more of a danger to its pilots than to enemy fighters?

· Did it represent a misappropriation of national assets?

So what are the worst fighter aircraft of all time? For these purposes, we’ll be concentrating on fighters that enjoyed production runs of 500 or more aircraft (listed in parentheses); curiosities such as the XF-84H “Thunderscreech” need not apply.

(Click through the pages for the *top* 5 list)

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: aerospace; aircraft
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Number 2 sure looks ugly.
1 posted on 01/11/2014 8:25:52 AM PST by Sir Napsalot
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To: Sir Napsalot

Sorry, the date of the article should have been 1-11-2014!


2 posted on 01/11/2014 8:27:08 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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Glad they mentioned the F-35 at the end.

I trust Pierre Sprey on this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxDSiwqM2nw


3 posted on 01/11/2014 8:30:27 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Sir Napsalot

The article was way to long and not well enough written to keep me reading. I didn’t even see a one though five listing.


4 posted on 01/11/2014 8:32:12 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Sir Napsalot
The MiG-23 was supposed to be the Soviet answer to the F-14 Tomcat,

Wrong! The author can't even copy-paste material from a reliable source.

5 posted on 01/11/2014 8:32:47 AM PST by fso301
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To: Sir Napsalot

Bumping this for later and more detailed response. The guy is full of sh!t on multiple levels in both facts and analysis.


6 posted on 01/11/2014 8:33:13 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: Sir Napsalot
The MiG-23 proved to be a disaster in air combat--it was woefully inadequate against the technologically superior F-15's and F-16's flown by the Israeli Air Force. Small wonder why the Soviets had to develop the MiG-29 and Su-27 FAST.
7 posted on 01/11/2014 8:33:32 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Sir Napsalot

The Lockheed F-104 Starfighter earned the unofficial name of “post hole digger” I think in Germany....the story goes the pilots sometimes would auger straight into the ground. IIRC, the problem actually was an on-board oxygen supply system depot level where the oxygen generation systems for supply tanks were located near the exhaust of some other combustion source. Tainted oxygen causing the pilots to black out.


8 posted on 01/11/2014 8:37:22 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Also, one of the first fighters I can recall that had a thrust-to-weight ratio of greater than 1. Could climb like a bullet....


9 posted on 01/11/2014 8:39:11 AM PST by Gaffer
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Not really a fighter but the RA-5 Vigilante rates at the top of someone’s “worst” list.
10 posted on 01/11/2014 8:39:35 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Sir Napsalot; zot

Thanks for the post. Although I think most of the century series were to combat Russian bombers more than to engage in fighter-on-fighter combat


11 posted on 01/11/2014 8:44:47 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Good subject Sir......The military needs shaking up every few years or they petrify in their thinking. Early in WWII Claire Chennault proved how to fight a superior force and nobody listened but kept going head to head with Zeros althougtht knowing they weren't as fast.

However I would list the Zero as the first which became the worst. The lack of armor, self sealing tanks and some with out radios made them into flying bombs that needed only a few hits to make them explode.

12 posted on 01/11/2014 8:50:40 AM PST by virgil283 (When the sun spins, the cross appears, and the skies burn red)
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Didn’t George W. Bush fly one of the Century series fighters during his term of service with the Air National Guard?

Either incredibly brave or incredibly stupid. Sometimes impossible to distinguish between the two, so maybe the same thing.

A flying stovepipe with wings. And that series was not even particularly automated.


13 posted on 01/11/2014 8:56:33 AM PST by alloysteel (Those who deny natural climate change are forever doomed to stupidity. AGW is a LIE.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

That’s a smart guy.


14 posted on 01/11/2014 8:59:49 AM PST by Track9 (hey Kalid.. kalid.. bang you're dead)
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To: GreyFriar
Although I think most of the century series were to combat Russian bombers more than to engage in fighter-on-fighter combat

That's pretty much correct. None of them were dogfighters. The F-104 was designed and built for straight line speed and climb.

The Buffalo. Actually not a bad aircraft at all, until you added armor, guns and military radios. It was a good performer without the added weight.
15 posted on 01/11/2014 9:00:00 AM PST by 98ZJ USMC
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To: Sir Napsalot
The F-105 “Thud” performed fairly well in Viet Nam and was the workhorse of the USAF. Col. Daniel James flew a F-101 “Voodoo” effectively in Viet Nam. The F-104 was just scary but for going from point A to point B had no other competitor except for the SR-71. I knew of two mercy missions that a pilot flew in a F-104 in record time.
16 posted on 01/11/2014 9:11:55 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: alloysteel

He flew the F102, and it’s doubtful he did so out of choice. It was the plane the USAF assigned to the Texas ANG to fulfill the role of intercepting Soviet bombers based in Cuba. Anything less than a skilled (and lucky) pilot flying a super sonic stiletto with stubby delta wings would not last long, much less for 500 plus flying hours.


17 posted on 01/11/2014 9:13:56 AM PST by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: Sir Napsalot

I once heard a Phantom jockey declare that that aircraft was “living proof that with a big enough engine, you can make a piano fly.”


18 posted on 01/11/2014 9:15:33 AM PST by IronJack
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To: vetvetdoug

The F111 was a good plane after the bugs were worked out. The Aussies just retired the last of theirs last year.
The F4 as a Dishonorable mention? This guy had rocks in his head. It was a great plane and did a lot of countries well.


19 posted on 01/11/2014 9:19:37 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Dishonorable Mention: General Dynamics F-111 Aardvark, McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II, Messerschmidt Bf 110, Bolton-Paul Defiant, Fairey Fulmar, Sukhoi Su-7 Fitter.

Really? Phantom in dishonorable mention?

20 posted on 01/11/2014 9:20:53 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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