Posted on 01/01/2014 7:18:16 PM PST by hecht
Last night we watched ABC's Dick Clarks New Years Eve Show. When they began to show music performers, the first I saw was Billy Joel. You could tell that it was one of his bona fide live performance as he sounded different from the studio versions, some minor errors etc. In my genervation ( I'm in my 50s) the best albums were often live , where the performers would jam, experiment and ad lib. The Allmans Live at Fillmore East is an example , or the Live version of Led Zepellin's "Dazed and Confused" -filmed in San Francisco - where Robert Plant ad libbed" going to San Francisco" in the middle of the song. After Joel the show went to a series of Millenial performers who all had auto-tuned lip synched performances, where they basically just aerobic danced to songs written by someone else, don't play instruments and have a few clones dancing in synch behind them. I joked to my guests" imagine if the Beatles were part of the Millenial generation. John Lennon would be lip synching an aerobic dance with George , Ringo and Paul would dance in unison behind him. What gives Millenials? have you no sense ? don't you realize that these "performers" are manufactured pretty boys/girls ? they are live action "Archies" If your taste in music is so vacuous , is there any hope for them? Is there any hope to wan them from Obama?
Even the non song writing performers of our generation i.e..e Elvis could at least perform.
Those are some pretty unusual likes for someone who went to school during the heyday of Led Zep.
For myself, I was just leaving high school as Led Zep was on the rise. Their sound was perfect for most of the folks my age (at the time). That said, I became interested in lots of the old blues artists from before my time, due to the influence of the 60s/70s greats.
I can remember my mom being shocked that I was enthralled with the likes of Robert Johnson, Muddy Waters, Howlin' Wolf, etc. She said to me that that music was too old for her ear.
“Next time I drive through Arizona, I’m gonna show up at your place with handcuffs, duct tape, and...”
Kinky! Very Kinky! Not that there’s anything wrong with that.... ;)
Oh hell, I forgot to mention the headphones. Sorry you took that the wrong way. I like you and everything, Normie, but not like that .. LOL
Interesting stuff.
One for you...Devin Townsend - Deadhead
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XtIaC0Y1kw
Semi post rock/no Greatful Dead correlation.
I love this guy’s stuff and he’s all over the map from Rockabilly to extreme metal in his catalog.
No, you mentioned them. I was just excited by your offer and forgot to include it....HA! ;)
I consider it my solemn duty to correct your dismal music education. When I’m done with you, you’ll be wearing head bands, bell bottoms, and saying, “groovy man”, every other sentence .. LOL
I lived in the San Francisco Bay Area. I really did not like the zeitgeist of those times and bands like Led Zep, Journey, Pink Floyd and all that stadium rock stuff just was the epitome of it all and was like fingernails on a chalkboard.
I just didn’t like pop music or culture that much. My likes were Steve Martin and Monty Python. I was much more in to comedy.
But punk rock was a total rebellion against the liberal hippy culture that saturated and permeated everything. And the music was better. Fast and energetic, like old time rock n roll.
After a few years in the depths of the punk rock scene I did expand my horizons. I did listen to Zep, and Hendrix ( who I still think well of today) but also like you mention, Howlin Wolf, Robert Johnson.
Moving through things in this manner made me like any music that is good, has soul.
In general I will have preferred songs rather than artists.
Now early fifties my all times are Jimmie Rodgers, Carter Family, Hank, Taj Mahal, Clash, Old 97’s.
If I get a chance I will listen to Outlaw Country on satellite. It’s amazing to me how so many of the punks moved to the outlaw country type of music wit age.
I like Americana as they call it.
Oh yeah, I did like rap to, but not like any of the utter garbage that now dominates.
I like. Kinda transitioned from post-rock to metal just in that track. Reminded me a little bit of Tool at times, but without Maynard’s insufferable pretentiousness getting in the way of the music.
Well, when I was in high school in the early-80s, my tastes ran towards Duke Ellington, Jack Teagarden, Artie Shaw, Lionel Hampton, Benny Goodman and such, eventually expanding in broader directions like Theloneous Monk and Ruth Etting.
Never really developed an ear for rock. Didn’t really like the sound of electric guitars. And I probably had a cultural aversion to it, associating rock music with hippies (whom I loathed), and with a certain exasperating ‘conformity,’ as it was the tiresomely omnipresent fixture amongst my peers.
OK now that is just torture. The hancuffs are one thing but ball bottoms were banned under the Geneva Conventions on human rights ;)
Check his stuff out. There’s a ton. Devin Townsend Band/Project and his hard metal stuff with Strapping Young Lad...but that’s REALLY hard metal.
The Devin Townsend Project stuff is the most varied. KLook up the Albums ‘KI’ for mellow rockabilly oldschool, ‘Addicted’ for power rocky pop and Ghost’ for almost ambient ultra mellow.
His warlier stuff like Synchestra, Infinity and Accelerated Evolution are more Rock/hard rock and Oceanmachine Biomech is just flat good.
DTP...bear in mind...this is the dame guy
Trainfire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M06vB9YeIjw
Ih Ah
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp5uMxhsmcI
Strapping Young Lad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm-eXzMdfro
“Never really developed an ear for rock. Didn’t really like the sound of electric guitars. And I probably had a cultural aversion to it, associating rock music with hippies (whom I loathed), and with a certain exasperating ‘conformity,’ as it was the tiresomely omnipresent fixture amongst my peers.”
Yeah. Well said. I was the same way.
“Each generation thinks it’s music is the best.”
In most cases, it was
That’s a pretty good list. I got to see Lionel Hampton in 1998. I also recognized that the bassist was one that played with Ellington in the 50s. (Recognized the name, since I wasn’t alive to see him in the 50s) I actually talked to him in the bar afterwards. Hampton was still in good form. I aslo saw Oscar Peterson a few times. I highly recommend you see Ahmad Jamal play.
I often ask my college students to name songs in their lifetime that will endure. They don’t have many titles, let alone artists or groups that will survive. My test is, will it be “elevator music” in 20 years? Because with obvious exceptions like “Whole Lotta Love” or “Free Bird” many songs from the 60s, 70s, and 80s-—especially if they had a melody-—end up in elevators.
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I think a MAJOR exception is Coldplay, who are some of the most gifted melody and lyric writers out there. But Green Day? Don't get 'em. Boring. I do find individual songs clever and appealing, but the groups don't seem to be able to sustain it. Jimmie Eat World and Matchbox 20 have had 2-3 good songs each, but that's hardly even one album by Coldplay.
Part of the problem is the demise of MELODY, part is that these guys don't seem that they value actual playing/jamming.
“Bubble Gum” rock has returned.
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