Posted on 12/26/2013 10:12:33 AM PST by Fawn
It is important to note that the only person to “see” and authenticate the long form birth certificate of one President Barrack H. Obama is now dead in a plane crash. Even more controversial is the one that they submitted as truth on the Whitehouse.gov website is 10 layered in Photo Shop and thought to be fake. The conspiracy never seems to die.
Now a whistle blower comes forward and claims she forged Obama’s birth certificate in 1985. She doesn’t just claim that she did the long form, but the short form as well. Both those claims if proven are enough to make people worry about who really is our President.
Funny how this person is not only a family member but also insists she did it for the drug cartels in Mexico. Fast and Furious and the Federal Court ruling to include drugs and child smuggling make more sense now.
She was in the water for half an hour before the first responders arrived, and life vests are made to keep the survivors head OUT of the water, unless of course the airline only supplied flotation devices, which do NOT work that way and only assist the survivors to FLOAT. I doubt if flotation devices would serve the applicable safety regulations.
Better make sure you know the difference before you describe how about a quarter of the people that drown every year are, in fact, found wearing life vests.
Fuddy's death has caused a stir among those who doubt the alleged birth documentation, reawakening an issue many had relegated to the back burner in view of more current impeachable offenses.
Now this gets tossed in, making me wonder if it is a preemptive strike to discredit 'birthers' in the wake of questions about Fuddy's death or if it has surfaced for a different reason (considering Fuddy was the HI official who claimed to have seen the original birth documents.)
While waiting for the toxicology report to complete the coroner’s report, I’ll speculate that cause of death for Loretta Fuddy is related to Stress-induced Sudden Cardiac Arrest.
Pardon the “medicalese” in the following but the bottom line is that any of us can inherit a genetic makeup that has us more prone to dying in an extremely stressful situation such as falling out of the sky and into the ocean.
Insight into stress-induced cardiomyopathy and sudden cardiac death due to stress. A forensic cardio-pathologist point of view.
Authors: Fineschi V, et al. Show all Journal
Forensic Sci Int. 2010 Jan 30;194(1-3):1-8. doi: 10.1016/j.forsciint.2009.10.025. Epub 2009 Nov 24.
Abstract
Emotional, physiological and physical stress is associated with increased rates of cerebrovascular events and sudden deaths. The pathophysiology of stress-induced cardiomyopathy is not well understood. Proposed mechanisms for catecholamine-mediated stunning in stress cardiomyopathy include epicardial vasospasm, microvascular dysfunction, hyperdynamic contractility with midventricular or outflow tract obstruction, and direct effects of catecholamines on cardiomyocytes. Studies show evidence of significant heritable influences on individual responses to adrenergic stimulation. Data from such studies may be of help for a more accurate comprehension of clinical and morphological alterations of the heart. Irrespective of the cause, patients with the classic stress-induced cardiomyopathy morphology deserve special attention because this extensive distribution of wall motion abnormalities has implications for potential associated complications. Cardiac response may be significantly coupled to genetic differences at candidate loci that encode components of catecholamine biosynthesis, storage, and metabolic pathway. Given the role of the sympathetic nervous system in responses to acute stress, it is reasonable to explore whether genetically determined alterations in catecholamine system functions contribute to acute and chronic cardiovascular disorders such as stress-induced cardiomyopathy.
Al H of the obamahustle did a lot of work on the Rezko scam and was cuffed at his house about 6 months ago, questioned and his computer confiscated. This is how this Administration quells dissent.
I’m missing the part where it says this type of cardiac failure cannot be detected during an autopsy.
She’s not credible at all. She’s claiming that a photo of another person with Obama (his actual half-sister, Maya Soetero-Ng), is a picture of her taken five years later. She’s not offering any other evidence that she has even met Obama except that lie and her story.
Read or listen very carefully thru the entire claim. It may be they are trying to hide one legitimate “diamond” in the bag of garbage ; thereby discrediting an important piece of the puzzle AKA mind games when the complete package is discarded.
It is also the squirrel distracting from a legitimate story -— what don’t they want us to pay attention to? What is happening NOW they don’t want us to notice?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxU8kHFJYuM&feature=youtu.be
You might enjoy the rest of her youtube presentations. Be sure to watch the one in which she maintains she’s having a conversation with the FBI - and watch her face. She’s nuts.
“That same pilot also said he was very surprised to find that Fuddy had died because she seemed fine.”
Sure, but a pilot isn’t usually a medical professional, and someone can go from fine to dead pretty quickly in the open ocean.
“And BTW, that same pilot also has never been listed as a pilot for Makani Kai, even though their pilot list was updated twice THIS YEAR, in June and on Dec 2 (just 9 days before this flight) - even though reports have said he flew for Makani Kai for 1-2 years (depending on the source).”
Okay, that’s some poor website management they’ve got going on, I guess.
“I’m not saying there wasn’t wind that would blow cushions around. If you think the wind could blow a mostly-submerged Loretta Fuddy around as quickly as it would blow a seat cushion, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.”
The seat cushions are just the example the pilot used to describe how the ocean conditions were. Apparently something, whether it was wind, currents, or Fuddy’s own panicked swimming, moved her away from the group fast enough that they couldn’t find her. I don’t think there is any doubt about that is there? So why do we need a mysterious twenty minute time lapse for her to have died and drifted 200 yards? For all we know, she kept swimming trying to get back to the group and went in the wrong direction.
“See, the stories shifted about as much as the water did - and always to fit whatever narrative was being pushed regarding Fuddy’s death. First it was that she was still in the fuselage. Then it was that she was out of the fuselage but probably had a heart attack. Then it was that she probably had hypothermia... And whenever the theory shifted here on FR, the news reports shifted or contradicted the earlier reports to try to fit the theory. Maybe it was the other way around; maybe the news stories shifted first and then the theories here shifted to fit. But the reports were contradictory.”
The only theories that I’ve seen are theories that somehow, because a woman died after a plane crash, and that woman had some roundabout connection to Obama, it must have been a murder. People have been pointing out that any number of other scenarios, like drowning, exhaustion, heart failure or maybe even hypothermia are more likely to be the ultimate explanation than some far-fetched conspiracy. Yet somehow, you spin that to “pushing a narrative” and “contradictory reports”.
The conspiracy theorists are “pushing a narrative” themselves, with no evidence. They condemn the press accounts for errors, but they themselves haven’t bothered to go interview a single witness or do any footwork themselves. I guess they believe that their armchair sleuthing skills are great enough to discern the truth from afar, and then share it with the rest of us.
“The kind of murder that wouldn’t show up in an autopsy examination is a poisoning. And some poisonings don’t even show up in the tox results. Hypothermia and complications thereof, heart failure, etc would show up in an autopsy examination.”
So, you think that, because they haven’t declared her cause of death yet, it must be a poisoning? Does that mean every case where they can’t determine a cause of death after an autopsy is a poisoning?
I’m pretty sure that autopsies, while pretty good at this point, are not an exact science. There are things that any individual examiner could miss, or not even think to look for. There are also mundane causes of death that wouldn’t leave much evidence to look for, which is one reason that they still sometimes use broad categories, like “natural causes”. If Grandma Robinson died, and they said it was “natural causes”, should we automatically assume Obama killed her off because she knew too much?
“She was in the water for half an hour before the first responders arrived, and life vests are made to keep the survivors head OUT of the water, unless of course the airline only supplied flotation devices, which do NOT work that way and only assist the survivors to FLOAT. I doubt if flotation devices would serve the applicable safety regulations.”
The article I posted above has the testimony of the pilot, who said he tried to get the seat cushion flotation devices, but lost them in the ocean. He gave his life jacket to one of the passengers, so they must not all have been wearing life jackets, if that was necessary.
I believe Fuddy was wearing one, but that doesn’t mean she was just idly bobbing in the ocean, like the poster I was responding to seemed to be suggesting. The oceans were rough, and even with a vest, they were struggling to stay together. Also, we have testimony that she was panicked before she got separated, so she surely was more panicked after being separated, so I doubt she was just floating along, not swimming or treading water.
“Better make sure you know the difference before you describe how about a quarter of the people that drown every year are, in fact, found wearing life vests.”
I was just pointing out that it’s not even rare for people to drown while wearing life vests, which is a fact. The suggestion was made that, since the vests are designed to keep someone’s head above water, they’d be fine not treading in rough seas, and relying on the vest. Obviously, if so many people are drowning while wearing the things, they are not so foolproof.
Probably a lot more likely scenario than that she was targeted by a joint aerial-naval hit squad, but what do I know?
There is a distinct possibility, given that the documents in question were forged, that the best way to head off that resurgence in interest would be to present someone easily discredited to make claims which might have an element of truth, if only in the general narrative, but which can be discredited on the details.
In so doing, that individual's account, the details, and the general narrative become discredited.
If BHO's parents are not who is being claimed, if the documents were indeed altered, in hard copy, to cover for the digital construct, and someone not credible surfaces and claims to have done just that, then while the narrative was correct--those events happened, just not by the hand that claimed the act nor using the methods claimed--then the narrative becomes discredited as well, and even finding those who committed the alterations and discerning the means used would not have credibility because the former bogus claim was debunked.
In a word, it is a PSYOP, using a bogus individual to discredit a true story.
If some raving and discreditable person were to claim he'd been part of a mission to raise a soviet submarine before it was known that that had been done, would the story have been believed by most people? likely not.
Maybe is she was reported to be recovering from a broken hip and two days later she died of cancer, we might wonder...you do remember how 'granny' Dunham died, don't you?
The more you protest, the bigger hole you dig for yourself.
I only heard half of the vid over the phone. A friend played it for me since I’m on dial up. Disregarding the wrong dates on historical events, Owens’ story seems to hold water with the people connections and actions.
She knew about Hawaii’s birth laws. How did the newspaper clipping appear for her convenience in 1985? She says a birth did not have to be in a hospital. Here, I think she’s working for obama to cover that there are no hospital records. He recently “signed” up for bronze obamacare and the BC issue rears its ugly head again. Owens is hired to do a cover up. barrack has a way about changing historical events, Owens is doing the same. Maybe it’s a family trait?
Did Fuddy’s death allow Owens to come out with her story? The timing is strange.
Fuddy dies.
Peter O’ Toole dies - had 2 BC according to Steyn
Obama signs up for bronze obamacare
Owens confesses.
What are we being distracted from?
Your language suggests to me that you are a slippery character who is capable of bending circumstances and words to suit the ends. The pilot gave his life jacket to a passenger who was exiting the aircraft without one. And then the pilot attempted to use the seat cushions as flotation devices, he threw them in the water, but they floated away. Had he held on to them, he would have been able to use them. Instead, he held onto one or more of the other passengers to help him stay afloat.
And don't add IF THAT WAS NECESSARY. The pilot obviously thought it was nescessary, that's why he gave his lifevest to the passenger who didn't have one.
Check the regulations. What kind of life vests it is mandatory for aircraft to carry. That will tell you if it's possible to drown wearing one after stepping into the water from an undamaged aircraft after a belly landing in choppy water without any visible whitecaps, in such a short period of time.
So likely scenario is that she died of a cardiac failure that couldn’t be detected during an autopsy?
Really?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxU8kHFJYuM&feature=youtu.be
watch them all.
she’s not distracting, she’s mentally ill.
Listen to the entire video and not that she claims she had nothing to do with the PDF file that was released by the WH.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxU8kHFJYuM&feature=youtu.be
I suggest you watch her entire range of ravings, and take a good look at her face. She’s insane.
But if she rocks your boat, go for it. There’s no accounting for taste...
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