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Would Americans Actually Dare Revolt Against This Abusive Government?
ClashDaily.com ^ | 12/9/13 | Donald Joy

Posted on 12/11/2013 9:34:25 AM PST by IChing

America’s Founding Fathers spelled it out pretty clearly: The purpose of government is to secure the God-given, inalienable rights of men. They put that exact language into The Declaration of Independence.

They also spelled out, exactly, that when government becomes abusive, and “destructive of these ends,” it is mankind’s right and duty to alter, abolish, or overthrow it.

You may have seen the recent news about prominent and well-spoken experts testifying before Congress regarding the Obama administration’s shocking usurpations and out-of-control excesses, especially the utter lack of regard for Constitutional limits on the powers of the executive branch. The testimony was remarkable in that the prospect of possible citizen uprising and revolt was brought up repeatedly. I can’t recall in my lifetime this ever having happened before, in such an official, high-level on-the-record context before the cameras and klieg lights.

The question that comes to my mind foremost is not whether such outright revolt is justified or warranted. The question is whether enough of us have the will and the wherewithal to carry it out.

Given what millions of us see as plainly egregious high crimes and misdemeanors by Obama and his agents, without adequate redress of our grievances by those who we believe are also largely corrupt–our representatives in Congress–a large chunk of the American population easily pays lip service to the idea of actual revolution, as opposed to more of the same-old, same-old election cycle shenanigans.

But talking and doing are, of course, two very different things.

I realize that by typing these words and sending them out over the cyber-clothesline, I’m somewhat risking a visit from the gestapo. So what. Let them throw me in jail. My wife and son would suffer, but if I’ve learned anything about that woman in the eight years we’ve been married, it’s that she can catch fish just as well or even better than I can on any given day, and probably live off the land if she has to. She was pretty much raised that way.

Have we as a society become so soft and accustomed to the comforts of technology and of various government checks & subsidies that too few of us would ever forcefully resist the tyranny that is growing from the power-mad panderers of the Left?

Life certainly is much different today than in the days of the American Revolution. Not only are people generally much more dependent on vast, highly-advanced, complex, specialized, and bureaucratic systems and technology which have removed them so much from the concept and practice of self-reliance in nature of those more primitive times, but anyone contemplating some kind of active defiance of the status quo has to consider also the comparatively extremely lopsided scenario such a prospect involves where it comes to actual weapons systems, intelligence networks, command and control operations, and logistics.

George Washington’s regulars, guerrillas, mercenaries, and Minutemen were long-shot underdogs against a formidable foe, of course, in the vastly better equipped, funded, and armed redcoats of King George. However, the muskets, horses, and cannon of our Revolutionary fighters were somewhat comparable, in technological sophistication and array, to the similarly primitive (by modern standards) hardware deployed by the crown. Furthermore, having “home field advantage,” all the colonists really had to do was make things so horrible for the king’s forces, much of which had come all the way from across the ocean, that the King eventually just relented rather than continue to try to keep control from all those thousands of miles away.

Nowadays, however, we’re talking about guys (and gals) with handguns, hunting rifles, carbines, and really not much more than that at all, up against the most space-age, entrenched, home-grown federal leviathan of lasers and satellites, nuclear missiles and bomber planes, tanks, aircraft carrier ships, helicopters, jet fighters and cargo planes, AWACS and close-air support planes, refueling tanker planes, smart bombs, infrared and laser-guided weird weapons that can zap and vaporize entire city blocks (I’ve been out of the military too long to even know what the hell these new weapons are), not to mention truly spooky, virtually omniscient surveillance and communications technology along with the government’s presumed ability to shut down any kind of tech networks we might employ.

Real encouraging, isn’t it?

Y’all think we should just stick to trying to vote the bastards out? Or am I missing something?


TOPICS: Government; History; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: cwii; cwiiping; neversurrender; revolt; revolution; tyranny
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To: pgkdan

Also, let’s face it. The military has us outgunned with trillions of dollars worth of cutting-edge high tech weapons that WE paid for. As much as we all love our guns, we aren’t much of a match for them.

With Patriots in charge that would not bother me, but clearly Obama has been purging their ranks, and it is now truly HIS Military.


61 posted on 12/11/2013 11:14:17 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: IChing

Start with not paying the Obamacare fine/tax,

You cant imagine how many freepers ping me to warn me how dangerous that even just that would be.


62 posted on 12/11/2013 11:17:12 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Neither Al Queda or the Taliban seemed to have gotten the memo.


63 posted on 12/11/2013 11:17:38 AM PST by Ajnin (Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinion of sheep.)
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To: Dick Vomer; pgkdan
>> I don’t think we’ll ever revolt against the government no matter how tyrannical it beocomes. As a nation, as a people, we’re too fat, lazy and comfortable. Not all of us...but as a nation this is true.
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> We are so far from revolt that those advocating it are merely keyboard warriors of the first order.

Here's the thing about a civil war — depending on how the people are treated by the government, that fat, lazy, and comfortable could evaporate in an instant. As the article points out, the Declaration of Independence says accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed and a war could certainly make conditions past the sufferable state.

You're right about keyboard commandos, it would be better if we put energy into laying preparations: supplies, logistics, intelligence, and so forth.

64 posted on 12/11/2013 11:18:25 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: IChing

Everybody wants to reach for a gun when all they need to do is earn enough less to be tax exempt. We don’t even have to work hard - just starve them at every opportunity.


65 posted on 12/11/2013 11:25:37 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: IChing

We will win with bic lighters and a few reels of slick wire.

Our firearms were all lost in a boat accident.


66 posted on 12/11/2013 11:46:01 AM PST by hadaclueonce (Because Brawndo's got electrolytes. Because Ethanol has Big Corn Lobby)
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To: IChing

Half of the population likes big brother government.


67 posted on 12/11/2013 11:50:08 AM PST by Hugin
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To: Hugin

In that American Revolution, only about 13% of the population actually fought against the British. A lot of them were outright British sympathizers.


68 posted on 12/11/2013 11:52:08 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic

There are so many differences between then and now comparisons are unrealistic. But for one, they had elected governments, and those elected governments were rebelling against the crown. That’s very different than rebelling against an elected government.

I once heard a quote from de Tocqueville where he noted that Americans were far more accepting of petty government intrusion in their daily life than Europeans because they viewed the government as representing them. They would, he predicted put up with impositions that if a king tried would result in revolution. Very prophetic.


69 posted on 12/11/2013 12:03:05 PM PST by Hugin
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To: IChing

Aside from garnering hits on your thread, what in the end is the point of such a post? Really. Yeah, a lot of people are going to posture and pose and flex their virtual muscles, but is that a real reflection of how things will play out with this tyrannical government?

I doubt it. And I doubt that the childish over-simplification of this complex question does it much service.


70 posted on 12/11/2013 12:03:48 PM PST by IronJack
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To: sickoflibs
Start with not paying the Obamacare fine/tax,
You can't imagine how many freepers ping me to warn me how dangerous that even just that would be.

It might actually be illegal to pay income taxes.
See, the US Code says it's illegal to engage in commerce with willfully provides or collects funds with the intention that such funds be used, or with the knowledge that such funds are to be used, in full or in part, in order to carry out […] any other act intended to cause death or serious bodily injury to a civilian, or to any other person not taking an active part in the hostilities in a situation of armed conflict, when the purpose of such act, by its nature or context, is to intimidate a population, or to compel a government or an international organization to do or to abstain from doing any act in 18 USC § 2339C - Prohibitions against the financing of terrorism... which is relevant because Fast & Furious seems to qualify (NSA's PRISM also might), and it is reasonable to believe providing funds to the federal government will fund these sorts of operations precisely because there has been no real [adverse] consequence to those who were involved to the operation.

71 posted on 12/11/2013 12:06:17 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: triSranch

Unfortunately in NC and SC most of the dead people were the result of the civil war that broke out between the Royalists and Patriots. But yeah, the Brits knew better than try to take on the southerners. Plus they outran their own lines of supply.


72 posted on 12/11/2013 12:06:24 PM PST by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: IChing

Obama’s early and formative years were in Idonesia under Sukarno. His model is Sukarno, President for life and absolute dictator.


73 posted on 12/11/2013 12:06:55 PM PST by ArmyTeach ( Videteco eos prius (See 'em first) Sculpin 191)
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To: Hugin
That’s very different than rebelling against an elected government.

Only as long as people believe have faith in the election process. That's being eroded rapidly.

74 posted on 12/11/2013 12:10:13 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: IChing

It wasn’t brought up repeatedly. It was only brought up once, by Michael Cannon, who was then congratulated by Trey Gowdy.


75 posted on 12/11/2013 12:10:31 PM PST by firebrand
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To: DBrow

We didn’t allow the IRS to steal the election. We only found out about it afterward. Now we can take it a step further, though, than we already have. Don’t know what’s stopping Issa. The fact that Holder won’t prosecute? Ridiculous. Do the right thing and leave the ball in their court.


76 posted on 12/11/2013 12:16:26 PM PST by firebrand
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To: Robert Teesdale

Well said. Be careful making the decision to unleash the war hounds.

This isn’t “Red Dawn.”


77 posted on 12/11/2013 12:17:07 PM PST by IronJack
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To: sarasota
Monumental fiscal mismanagement driving our nation toward insolvency, a federal gubbamint putting foreign interest before that of it's citizens.

We're being spied on by a government WE put into existence. Phones records, credit card records, tweets, facebook, internet browser url’s. Warrentless searches and innocent folks getting capped by gubbamint agents smashing into incorrect residences.

IRS, ATF, EPA, DHS, TSA being used to intimidate American citizens, even to the point of altering an American election.

Overburdening taxes/regulation driving American jobs overseas. Gubbamint taking over large portions of our economy such as auto, insurance, financial and medical.

They store up highly sophisticated military hardware, weapons and ammo for whatever reason. All the while pushing and pushing to remove citizens 2nd amendment right to arm and protect themselves.

We've been groped, xrayed and scrutinized like the enemy. Automatic license plate readers to scan thousands of lic plates per hour on squad cars, overpasses to track citizens in the name of security.

Webs of cameras and surveillance drones being deployed throughout the country, particularly in urban areas to track and keep a watchful eye on citizens...again for security.

I dunno bout’chall, but seems the gubbamint sees US as the enemy...would you not agree?

78 posted on 12/11/2013 12:18:53 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: IChing

They made their point. No Internet in 1773, but here it is now for everyone to see. Perception. They didn’t have to actually move the boxes. What would that prove?


79 posted on 12/11/2013 12:24:24 PM PST by firebrand
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To: OneWingedShark
RE “It might actually be illegal to pay income taxes.”

That is illegal but its perfectly LEGAL to not pay your Obamacare personal mandate taxes.

".... such taxpayer shall not be subject to any ...
What the Obama-care law text REALLY says on IRS enforcement of the personal Mandate fine/tax

But given some responses I been getting on this I get the impression that more than a few are so scared of Obama they would hide under their beds.

"BAAAA BAAAA Scared of IRS BAAA BAAA I must comply"

80 posted on 12/11/2013 12:28:11 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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