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An older-model R-77 missile being launched. Via Air Power Australia

1 posted on 12/04/2013 10:10:08 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

How objective is the article?


2 posted on 12/04/2013 10:16:42 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

ping


3 posted on 12/04/2013 10:17:37 PM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The RMS Titanic can’t sink. If you like your plan you can keep it, PERIOD! If man were meant to fly he’d have wings. Of course I’ll call you. Have I ever lied to you? Your kitchen’ll be done in less than a month.


4 posted on 12/04/2013 10:18:25 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Of the 4 wars in my lifetime none came about because the US was too strong." Reagan)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Putin is ready to play in the big leagues.


5 posted on 12/04/2013 10:21:04 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: sukhoi-30mki

You spend your money on welfare and buying votes, or you spend your money on defense and creating jobs.


6 posted on 12/04/2013 10:23:13 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: sukhoi-30mki

oh we don’t need the F22

it will be 20 years before anyone can touch it


7 posted on 12/04/2013 10:25:28 PM PST by DoughtyOne (May his name be striken from every tablet stone building and never be said again short of treason!)
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Just throw a couple of these out the window- That`ll throw `em off your tail.

9 posted on 12/04/2013 10:32:59 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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So what if their pilots can shoot down anything now. Out pilots are now free to suck each other’s *****. Can Russia’s pilots do that? Didn’t think so. Oh, we can spy on our citizens way better than Russia can too so there.


10 posted on 12/04/2013 10:37:53 PM PST by RC one
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Better, but not a giant killer.
Hyping the wrong thing about an AESA in the missile.
Doesn’t understand the real issues in the missile end-game.
At the big boy level, stealth is tactical and no longer a get out of death free card.


11 posted on 12/04/2013 10:53:55 PM PST by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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Big deal. The Russians develop a missile that our F-35’s and F-22’s can’t out-manuever. At least we have women pilots....< /sarc >


13 posted on 12/04/2013 10:57:54 PM PST by freebilly (Creepy and the Ass Crackers....)
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This will be useful for China in the East Asian seas.


14 posted on 12/04/2013 11:01:31 PM PST by sunrise_sunset
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To: sukhoi-30mki
They don;t NEED missles.
They've got OBAMA.




Read an article from Tom Fife and a comment from thefife:Here's Tom Fife's article.
Let us remember ...
There's NO "ENIGMA" ... to Barack Hussein Obama II.

The DemocratsNational Socialists, and FASCIST Obama are DOING IT ON PURPOSE!!!!

We were warned.


Obama tells Russian PM "After Election I Have More Flexibilty"




18 posted on 12/04/2013 11:11:00 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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Can an AESA radar track an F22? I don’t think so. It does not matter if they got a nice “new” air missile if the MIG is shot down first by a true 5th generation fighter like the Raptor that has “first look and shoot” capability. It can’t shoot down what the platform and missile can’t see until it is too late. This article is the usual Russian hype that I’ve know all my life.


19 posted on 12/04/2013 11:13:49 PM PST by Red Steel
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how good my AIM....

Fine, Stands off about 100 miles....and carry six per plane...

Buh, Bye.


23 posted on 12/05/2013 12:00:02 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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now that's a sobering article, thanks forthe post.

31 posted on 12/05/2013 2:31:07 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi 8-)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

This is looking a lot like 1980. The difference is that in 1980, America voted to be put back to work and to be respected in the world again. In 2012, America voted for free abortions, free birth control, free government (tax payer) paid benefits, and gay marriage.


33 posted on 12/05/2013 3:47:30 AM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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Not bad at all. I dont know how it can be more agile than AMRAAM. An antiradar chaff, laser or even gun/missile system could defeat it. The AMRAM uses INS and radar and could be modified like the french Micah to have a passive IR seeker.


34 posted on 12/05/2013 4:12:28 AM PST by lavaroise
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“[...] the U.S. and Europe have essentially stopped investing in new seekers for air-to-air missiles.”

That is not quite true for Europe:
IRIS-T/IDAS (ASRAAM)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRIS-T
You have to view the movie of the seeker head moving. The fast moves are hard to see. Try slow motion right at the end of the movie.

MBDA Meteor (BVRAAM)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteor_%28missile%29


37 posted on 12/05/2013 4:27:34 AM PST by MHalblaub ("Easy my friends, when it comes to the point it is only a drawing made by a non believing Dane...")
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Murdering and raping WHITE Americans by the thousands
is now A-OK to the Islamic DO"J" run by Holder.

This will NEVER be forgotten. EVER.

38 posted on 12/05/2013 4:35:26 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Eh.....it’s much more complicated than that.

First an unmanned missile can outmaneuver a piloted aircraft, at least in terms of absolute capability.

The biggest problem is in the control loop. Make that faster and a missile can maneuver faster. That’s a bigger innovation than the sensor, in my opinion, but one can argue.

The other problem is getting your platform in the right spot at the right time to fire a missile - which requires ground support systems, integrated air defense systems. We would not send a single aircraft against a fully integrated air defense system. So even if you had a “missile that can’t miss” it doesn’t mean a thing in and of itself.

Another problem is getting into position to fire without being fired upon first.

So this would seem like typical Russian hyperbole.


39 posted on 12/05/2013 4:41:45 AM PST by RFEngineer
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