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New book looks at Hitler’s use of gun control to disarm Jews
Daily Caller ^ | 11/07/2013 | Jamie Weinstein

Posted on 11/08/2013 8:18:14 AM PST by Rusty0604

“Actually, there are parallels between the firearm bans and registration requirements enacted by the Weimar Republic and those proposed by President Obama,” Halbrook, a Research Fellow at the Independent Institute, told The Daily Caller when asked what he would say to those who will argue making such a comparison sounds a bit hysterical. ”Only law-abiding persons obeyed those laws. Weimar authorities warned that the lists of gun owners must not fall into the hands of ‘radical elements.’ The lists fell right into the hands of the Nazis when they assumed power. Gun owner data can be misused by the government today just as it did in the IRS scandal, and it can be hacked for nefarious purposes.”

“That said,” he added, “comparisons to Nazi Germany are unjustified in a society where a free press and free elections remain, and no one is being herded into death camps.”

You claim that registration records played a role in Hitler’s war against the Jews. How so?

When Hitler became Chancellor, police were ordered to revoke the gun permits of all who were “politically unreliable,” meaning Social Democrats and other opponents, including many Jews. In 1935, the Gestapo decreed that gun permits should not be issued to Jews. By 1938, in the weeks before the pogrom known as the Night of the Broken Glass or Kristallnacht, the registration records and house searches were used to disarm Jews in Berlin and throughout Germany. The onslaught could then occur without fear of opposition.

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TOPICS: History; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; hitler; hitlerguncontrol; nazi; pages; wwii
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“That said,” he added, “comparisons to Nazi Germany are unjustified in a society where a free press and free elections remain, and no one is being herded into death camps.”

I'm not so sure about the free press here and would note that Iran and Venezuela have "free elections".

1 posted on 11/08/2013 8:18:14 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

Bingo. We can’t take anything for granted in the USA anymore. The “couldn’t happened here” argument is a false security, a naivety.


2 posted on 11/08/2013 8:24:37 AM PST by Bayard
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To: Bayard
The “couldn’t happened here” argument is a false security, a naivety.

Agreed.

Human behavior is human behavior. Period.

3 posted on 11/08/2013 8:26:16 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Rusty0604
And that is what our Hitler like communists black Muslim King Obama will do to us. Beware America, we are close to being a communists country. The Democratic party is so close to the communists beliefs that it scares me.

By the way, miss Romney yet? Just a reminder that the GOP is still the most dysfunctional bunch of asses in America. We have to dump the RINOs.

4 posted on 11/08/2013 8:30:36 AM PST by Logical me
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To: Rusty0604

This just can’t be. I’ve heard liberals say that Hitler didn’t take anyone’s guns away - this is just the fever dreams of radical right wingers. They wouldn’t lie to me about such an important topic, would they?


5 posted on 11/08/2013 8:32:09 AM PST by Hardastarboard (You can keep your doctor - if you lock him in your basement.)
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To: Rusty0604

A little off-topic but relevant.

The background check info for gun purchases is suppose to be deleted, so it cannot become back door gun registration.

One of the amendments to the last gun control bill offered by the Second Amendment Foundation was to add a penalty for the retention of those gun purchase records.

Currently, there is no penalty for not destroying those records per the law.


6 posted on 11/08/2013 8:36:53 AM PST by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: Rusty0604

Ask yourself if we did not have guns here in Amerika right now what do you think would happen? Or would already have happened?


7 posted on 11/08/2013 8:37:35 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Logical me

The media and people focus on one big story of the moment, and meanwhile our freedom is being hit on all sides constantly.


8 posted on 11/08/2013 8:39:32 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: sauropod

read


9 posted on 11/08/2013 8:41:31 AM PST by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: joshua c

I’ve never had any confidence that they were destroyed. If they did pass a law adding a penalty for retention of the records, why would we expect this administration or any gov’t employee to care about abiding by that law when they don’t respect other laws?


10 posted on 11/08/2013 8:42:47 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

parallels between 1930s Germany and today.. I’m shocked.


11 posted on 11/08/2013 8:45:54 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Rusty0604

12 posted on 11/08/2013 8:47:00 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Rusty0604

Comparisons to Nazi Germany are not unjustified.

The Nazi’s confiscated and took weapons after their rise.

Obama is rising and will do the same if we let him.

When the weapons are gone we are a slave State, under the thumb of Government


13 posted on 11/08/2013 8:53:43 AM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: Rusty0604

bump


14 posted on 11/08/2013 9:02:13 AM PST by ReaganÜberAlles
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To: Rusty0604
"That said,” he added, “comparisons to Nazi Germany are unjustified in a society where a free press and free elections remain"

Hitler was freely elected in elections held by a country in economic shambles.

15 posted on 11/08/2013 9:05:27 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Rusty0604

“no one is being herded into death camps.”

Correction: “no one is being herded into death camps, yet.”


16 posted on 11/08/2013 9:13:39 AM PST by ArtDodger
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To: Rusty0604
Let's not forget the old USSR.

"Citizens! Turn in your guns!"

17 posted on 11/08/2013 9:25:03 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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18 posted on 11/08/2013 9:26:54 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Hardastarboard
 ”I’ve heard liberals say that Hitler didn’t take anyone’s guns away”

Ever try pulling the gold dental work out of an armed persons mouth?

19 posted on 11/08/2013 9:48:12 AM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama phones= Bread and circuits.)
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To: Rusty0604

We already have registration and its been around since 1968. Unless you made a private sale for a gun sold prior to the advent of form 4473 and the FFL didnt have an unfortunate fire or destroyed old 4473s then you can be absolutely positively sure the ATF has taken those and created a registry. In fact back in the Clinton years (I think it was then) the ATF was caught doing just this. When an FFL went out of business the remaining 4473s were taken back to WV and put in a database. That and active FFLs would see the ATF copying 4473s during routine audits. Those they copied were for ‘assault weapons’ and HGs. (This is still happening today.) So, the horse has been out of the barn for quite some time and its likely going to be very very hard to put him back. Anyone who purchased a gun should assume the govt knows and they have no qualms about taking it by force for any reason (even none) at any time.


20 posted on 11/08/2013 9:51:08 AM PST by 556x45
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