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Can Conservatives Have Liberal Friends, Or Even Partners?
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Posted on 10/16/2013 1:12:43 PM PDT by IChing

Yes and no. Yes, as in, it is possible, and no, as in, it’s not normal in the soul sense.

Of course, one immediately thinks of famous, mysteriously married, bi-partisan power-couples such as top republican consultant Mary Matalin and top democrat strategist James Carville. They’ve been happily wedded for twenty years. Amazingly, they actually met (in 1991) while each was about to be hired to manage opposing presidential campaigns; Matalin for George H. W. Bush, and Carville for Bill Clinton. They claim publicly that they don’t talk politics at home. When they appear on TV together, it’s actually pretty amusing to observe their playful jousting over public issues.

Or, perhaps less applicably, we have the dynamic duo of RINO former California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger and media maven/Kennedy-clan Obama shill Maria Shriver, who may be headed to Splits-ville after all.

Then we come back to the reality of everyday life among us, the comparative so-called hoi polloi. The real hazards and occasional rewards of odd-couple, opposites-attracting, friendships and relationships are in evidence everywhere. We all have at least some experience with this.

In the way of caveats about fellowship with people who don’t share our faith, those of us who are religious can point to the Biblical admonition about being “unequally yoked” with unbelievers (2 Corinthians 6:14).

For that matter, when liberals and moderates try to insist that Islam can peacefully coexist with the non-Muslim world, we vigilant conservatives can easily point to the many passages in Islamic scriptures which forbid followers of Mohammed from taking friends among the “kuffar(non-Muslims).” We’re on solid ground, in terms of referencing Muslims’ own doctrine, which also says that it’s perfectly okay for Muslims to lie and pretend (“taqiyya” and “kitman”) to be friends with us, and give the appearance of cooperating, if it in actuality helps advance the overall goal of Islamic conquest of the globe.

But back to our more mundane daily lives.

Many of us have friendly workplace colleagues who differ with us drastically on major political topics, and for the sake of keeping things professional and amiable at work, we do our best to avoid getting too involved in sensitive political discussions and diatribes. That is, those of us who prefer to keep our jobs, and keep workplace aggravation to a minimum.

Then there are the various family members with whom we profoundly disagree, yet maintain all sorts of uneasy truces over inflammatory subjects in the news, tiptoeing gingerly around the political minefield while exchanging rote pleasantries and cordiality where necessary. Those can be the more touchy and explosive relationships that sometimes are better allowed to lie dormant indefinitely.

In this cyber-age of social media and online networking, almost everyone has reunited with old pals from our school and/or military days, with lost loves, former coworkers, estranged relatives, and so on. Plus there are the new online friends and acquaintances in our lists. As often as not, people we’ve never even met in person become fast friends through shared interests and discussion threads, mutual friends, political causes, or just liking their profile picture, initially.

Those venturing into the dating world, both online and off, know full well the vagaries posed by political differences which arise when getting to know, and attempting to develop relationships with, significant others.

It’s when things go bad that we step back and wonder if it’s even realistic to try to maintain certain associations, though.

Shortly after the Boston Marathon bombing, I had reconnected on Facebook with an old pal from my long ago drinking days in my youth, from whom I’d become estranged and had had no contact for many years. I made the mistake of immediately sending him one of my columns on ClashDaily.com, and he didn’t take too kindly to my efforts/sharing. His initial reaction?: ”Good lord, don’t start sending me Bill Ayres(sic) conspiracy type shit. I’m actually thinking of deleting FB account. I never use it.”

We argued, and had some choice words for each other. Here are his final words to me on Facebook: ”Seriously, Don, you’re a megalomaniac. And I don’ t care to hear your flatulence rising from the right wing fever swamps. To quote you from yesterday, why don’t you go f*** yourself. I’m blocking you.”

*Sigh*

To quote Rodney King(r.i.p.), “Can we all get along? Can we get along??”

Probably not; not always, anyway…but sometimes, we can–sometimes, for decades. I believe it’s a question of specific circumstances, complex chemistry, and spiritual forbearance. Either we work with what’s workable, or we don’t. It’s work, that’s for sure, and as with any kind of work, there are rewards.

Right, libs? ;-)


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To: Son-Joshua

Very true. Get away from the populated areas in almost any state and you will find conservatives are the norm. I suppose it has to do with them having more down to earth common sense and having to rely on themselves instead of a hand out.

I could never be romantically involved with a liberal. Just way too much to overcome.

On a casual acquaintance level I can manage it as long as I don’t have to spend much time around them or talk about anything serious with them. I’m convinced there is something fundamentally wrong with the liberal mind and/or brain. Not sure if it’s chemical, physical, or psychological but the end result is the same.


61 posted on 10/16/2013 1:50:24 PM PDT by Boomer
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To: IChing

Not if you love your country. Libs are out to destroy the country. You can’t be friends with that.


62 posted on 10/16/2013 1:50:25 PM PDT by jch10 ("Normandy was closed when we got there too!")
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To: Olog-hai

The universal female imperative to ‘marry a good provider’ makes them Marxist whether they believe it or not.

Ann Coulter(tongue in cheek) does not believe women should have the right to vote. I believe she is right. My wife of course thinks I’m a neanderthal and I do take that as a compliment


63 posted on 10/16/2013 1:50:39 PM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: freedom462

Corporations hire abortion working women, and it is a all get along thing going to make them happy, working and not sueing the company because it does not like conservative atmosphere.

For the boss it is fine so long he takes the surplus for increasing his family and let the workers waste money buying his products instead of growing families.


64 posted on 10/16/2013 1:52:12 PM PDT by lavaroise
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To: IChing

No. I have no reason to waste time with such people.


65 posted on 10/16/2013 1:53:07 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: forgotten man
Another point about California politics is the impact of the gerrymandered state assembly and state senate districts. The ultra liberal state senators and assembly members get elected with 2 or 3 thousand votes. In the neighboring Republican districts the conservatives often get more than twice as many votes as the liberal, but the gerrymandering gives the liberals a super majority. It was illegal immigration that caused this. The House districts and state assembly/senate are based on population, including illegal aliens in the population. We are so screwed.

They are better off taking a plane trip to a foreign country and never returning. I don't understand the cowardice of conservatives. If someone waltzes into your home, claims all your life savings, and threatens your family's survival would you just sit around sulking and whining? At the very least, conservatives should be cutting themselves off entirely from the economy and using the second amendment whenever starving leftist and illegal immigrant animals come looking to devour their crops.

I'm not seeing anything but a bunch of whiny losers who would rather watch their kids die from disease than risk being called a name on MSN.
66 posted on 10/16/2013 1:53:35 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: CityCenter

I actually made a bit of headway on that topic recently with a lib, by sending her this:

http://clashdaily.com/2013/07/the-abortion-rape-exception-look-her-in-the-eye/


67 posted on 10/16/2013 1:54:15 PM PDT by IChing
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To: lavaroise
Corporations hire abortion working women, and it is a all get along thing going to make them happy, working and not sueing the company because it does not like conservative atmosphere. For the boss it is fine so long he takes the surplus for increasing his family and let the workers waste money buying his products instead of growing families.

It would all be fine and good is leftists aborted every last one of their offspring. The problem is that they spend thousands aborting a few and then end up sparing a few lives to infect the gene pool and breed new life-sucking monsters.
68 posted on 10/16/2013 1:55:11 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: Coyote Choir

My ex and her famiy are big liberals. (I met them before i became an informed voter)

She is DEFINATELY a user. A fat lazy pig who would sit on her fat ass on my couch as I cooked dinner and cleaned after. Hence why were not together.

Never again!!


69 posted on 10/16/2013 1:56:12 PM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: IChing

When I was single I made it perfectly clear I wanted nothing to do with smokers, dopers, alcoholics or liberals.


70 posted on 10/16/2013 1:56:29 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: AlaskaErik

Sounds like a good list to me


71 posted on 10/16/2013 1:57:20 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: IChing

Twenty years ago I would have said yes. It’s possible for liberals and conservatives to be friends...even spouses. But no more. The liberal agenda is so pervasive, intrusive and over powering that I don’t see how any red blooded patriot could consort in any way with liberals. I have a liberal brother and sister in law with whom I have virtually no contact because I view them as gleeful, willing parties to the destruction of this country. I’ve cut ties with them and told them they’re no longer welocome in my home. And I mean it.


72 posted on 10/16/2013 1:57:33 PM PDT by pgkdan
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To: wardaddy

“Conservative and libertarian chicks are hotter and more feminine”

True. All that liberal chicks have going for them is that they’re easy.


73 posted on 10/16/2013 2:00:15 PM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (My sweet talk is also savory and creamy.)
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To: freedom462

All the scientists I know are conservatives. That’s probably because their dreams consist of hard work and improving civilization. The idiot leftist professors are on the other side of campus. They teach their students to dream small and leech off of their neighbors like vampires.


74 posted on 10/16/2013 2:00:29 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: IChing
The guy is a corporate lawyer for a pharmaceutical firm, comes from money, trust fund baby, and was actually sort of a P.J. O’Rourke wannabe when he attended college at Wooster; wrote a column himself for awhile, from a sardonic right-wing perspective, for the college paper. I don’t know exactly what happened, but a mutual friend says his ex-wife put him through such psychological torment that he is now a shell of his former self...

That's usually the story with leftists. Their divorce rates are sky high. It's the natural consequence when two incredibly selfish people attempt to live together.

Now these vampires want to force the rest of us into their blood-sucking relationship using the tax system.
75 posted on 10/16/2013 2:03:18 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: Vaquero

You just described the traditional family as Marxist. Since the goal of Marxism is to destroy the traditional family, that is utterly oxymoronic. The woman keeping the home is not a Marxist arrangement.


76 posted on 10/16/2013 2:07:39 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Coyote Choir

Oh, I agree. I had a liberal friend for more than a decade that I gave so many extra chances to that I shouldn’t have. Several people asked me why I remained friends with her after some of the s*** she pulled. She was so self-involved, manipulative, and she used people. I had jobs that paid very well most of the time I was friends with her. I was, stupidly, very generous to her, both with gifts and teaching her technical skills. I was there for her through thick and thin with emotional support and financial support. Then I got laid off for two years and *shockingly* she lost interest in our friendship. Never asked her for a dime, just someone to talk to and she was too busy all of a sudden. Oh, until SHE needed something. Then, when it was clear I no longer wanted to be friends because of her shabby treatment of me, she blamed it all on me and poisoned our mutual friends against me, then took all the technical skills I taught her and opened a competing web site. Never trust a lib. My good and trustworthy friends (ie conservatives) say I’m too nice. I agree and can guarantee I won’t make those mistakes twice. I have no more lib friends.


77 posted on 10/16/2013 2:08:07 PM PDT by grateful
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To: Wanderer99

Well, now I think we get a sense of who you worship.


78 posted on 10/16/2013 2:08:30 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: IChing

My best friend’s a lib, an awful one. But I love the dude and the personal side of life outweighs the political. I know that’s not always the case


79 posted on 10/16/2013 2:11:01 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: IChing

I saw someone at the grocery store yesterday (came within 2 feet) who I worked with years ago and is a rabid liberal.....I didn’t say a word and kept on walking.


80 posted on 10/16/2013 2:13:20 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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