Why Giving Republican Bullies a Bloody Nose Isn’t Enough (Barf Alert and lies, nothing but lies)

Since Barack Obama became president, the extremists who have taken over the Republican Party have escalated their demands every time he’s caved, using the entire government of the United States as their bargaining chit.

In 2010 he agreed to extend all of the Bush tax cuts through the end of 2012. Were they satisfied? Of course not.

In the summer of 2011, goaded by an influx of Tea Partiers, they demanded huge spending cuts in return for raising the debt ceiling. In response, the President offered an overly-generous $4 trillion “Grand Bargain,” including cuts in Social Security and Medicare and whopping cuts in domestic spending (bringing it to its lowest level as a share of gross domestic product in over half a century).

Were Republicans content? No. When they demanded more, Obama agreed to a Super Committee to find bigger cuts, and if the Super Committee failed, a “sequester” that would automatically and indiscriminately slice everything in the federal budget except Social Security and Medicare.

Not even Obama’s re-election put a damper on their increasing demands. By the end of 2012, they insisted that the Bush tax cuts be permanently extended or the nation would go over the “fiscal cliff.” Once again, Obama caved, agreeing to permanently extend the Bush tax cuts for incomes up to $400,000.

Early this year, after the sequester went into effect, Republicans demanded even bigger spending cuts. Obama offered more cuts in Medicare and a “chained CPI” to reduce Social Security payments, in exchange for Republican concessions on taxes.

Refusing the offer, and seemingly delirious with their power to hold the nation hostage, they demanded that the Affordable Care Act be repealed as a condition for funding the government and again raising the debt ceiling.

The government is shuttered and the nation is on the verge of defaulting on its debts. But public opinion has turned sharply against the Republican Party. And the GOP’s corporate and Wall Street backers are threatening to de-fund it.

Suddenly the Republicans are acting like the school-yard bully who terrorized the playground but finally got punched in the face. They’re in shock. They’re humiliated. They’re trying to come up with ways of saving face.

With bloodied nose, House Republicans are running home. They’ve abruptly turned negotiations over to their Senate colleagues.

And just as suddenly, their demand to repeal or delay the Affordable Care Act has vanished. (An email from the group Tea Party Express says: “Are you like us wondering where the fight against Obamacare went?”) At a lunch meeting in the Capitol, Senator John McCain asked a roomful of Republican senators if they still believed it was possible to reverse parts of the program. According to someone briefed on the meeting, no one raised a hand — not even Ted Cruz.

It appears that negotiations over the federal budget deficit are about to begin once again, and presumably Senate Republicans will insist that Obama and the Democrats give way on taxes and spending in exchange for reopening the government and raising the debt ceiling for at least another year.

But keeping the government running and paying the nation’s bills should never have been bargaining chits in the first place, and the President and Democrats shouldn’t begin to negotiate over future budgets until they’re taken off the table.

The question is how thoroughly President Obama has learned that extortionist demands escalate if you give in to them.

I understand what you are saying, but by the time they confiscate guns the battle cry will already be sounded. There is a line out there that won't be crossed, I just don't know where it is. But revolutions happen everywhere. Nobody wants to be the first to die, but I may be prepared as much as anybody, yet be taken out in the first round. The body of patriots will go on, however and in my mind, they will win. Most of us have the right attitude to prevail and have common sense to know when someone is lying to us. I don't think most of us would have a problem slaughtering the enemies of America as we have been stepped on for too long now. I know the police would side with us and I'm pretty sure the military wouldn't fire on Americans. Obama feels confident because he has put his own in the top spots, but you have to have your own all the way down the line or the line will break. If a General gives an illegal order to a Major, he may get a surprise from the Major.

I'm certainly not saying everything would be clean and sterile like a movie, but the general outcome is freedom lovers fight to keep their freedom harder than the conscripts trying to quell the insurrection.

If we had a skirmish and lost 20k men and took the government back from the socialists, would that be a worthwhile shedding of blood? What about 200k? You have to ask yourself how bad do you want it and how bad do they want to follow Obama? If they are that dedicated to Obama as a cult leader, then it's no different than Stalin or Castro. It might take awhile to get Americans to feel about their neighbors as we do about the Old Soviet Union, but it won't take long for the atrocities to mount up.

If we are ever lulled into giving up our guns, however, then it's inevitable that this scenario will happen. They talk about anyone that wants to cut the budget as a terrorist. It wouldn't take much for them to approve of lining us up against a wall.

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