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As Cruz hews to hard line, other 2016 contenders go mute on shutdown
The Hill ^ | October 11, 2013 | Cameron Joseph -

Posted on 10/12/2013 5:08:48 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Tensions between Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and other potential 2016 presidential contenders over the government shutdown were visible just beneath the surface at Friday's Values Voter Summit in Washington, D.C.

Cruz fired up the conservative crowd with a demand that they double down in their fight against ObamaCare, ripping establishment Republicans as well as Democrats for opposing him in his quest.

But even in the aftermath of Cruz's fiery speech, others shied away from any discussion of the high-profile confrontation.

The shutdown went unmentioned by Sens. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), both early champions of the defunding battle.

Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), who is working toward a compromise with the White House on the shutdown and debt ceiling that does not erode ObamaCare, made a short argument for his alternate plan in Friday afternoon video message to the group.

The GOP leaders' avoidance of the high-profile battle at the conference was an important illustration of the delicate position in which they find themselves.

The conservative base loves Cruz for his defunding push and "with us or against us" mentality, but polls show the effort is hurting the Republican brand.

Paul's and Rubio's dodges, and Ryan's implicit rebuke, demonstrate that they are seeking to avoid being tainted by the fight's fallout while avoiding any confrontation with the party’s base.

Cruz used his speech to frame the debate over ObamaCare and the government shutdown in stark terms, painting it as a key battle in the larger war for individual freedom.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2016election; 2016gopprimary; abortion; conservatism; cruz2016; deathpanels; election2016; obamacare; shutdown; tedcruz; texas; valuesvoters; valuesvotersummit; zerocare
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1 posted on 10/12/2013 5:08:48 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
If anyone is interested:

Video of Cruz's speech @ the Voter Summit -- 25 minutes


2 posted on 10/12/2013 5:12:51 AM PDT by deport
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

They will let Cruz get as far out on the branch as possible, then they will cut off the branch.

Make no mistake, everything the GOP is doing is to destroy Cruz.


3 posted on 10/12/2013 5:15:30 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The reason the “Republican Brand” is being hurt by Cruz is because he has demonstrated that the Republicans by and large are just a bunch of gutless hypocritical cowards.

The liberals hate the GOP because they are not democrats. Conservatives hate the GOP because they are not Republicans.


4 posted on 10/12/2013 5:16:12 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Except for Peter King R(NY). He was on MSNBC bashing Cruz and speaking like a repub candidate for 2016.


5 posted on 10/12/2013 5:18:14 AM PDT by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I would like to know if these are the same “polls” that show how much everyone loves obamacare? Communist aholes


6 posted on 10/12/2013 5:21:41 AM PDT by kneehurts
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
There are only two (2) possible reasons that Cruz was the only 2016 presidential contender to talk about the the shutdown. 1) Cruz has scared the living crap out of them on this issue. 2) Cruz is a one trick pony.
I have seen Cruz talk on many other subjects , including abolishing the IRS.
That only leaves number uno. (little Spanish lingo there )
7 posted on 10/12/2013 5:21:57 AM PDT by Tupelo (Snatching Defeat from the jaws of Victory, an old Republican Tradition.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think the elitist appeasing Republican establishment has pretty much sealed its fate. They aren’t going to get those ‘independent’ moderates, they aren’t going to get blacks, nor are they going to get Hispanics no matter how much they appease. They are forever relegated to second-tier power and status because they as a national party have lost conservatives pretty much forever at this point.

I really couldn’t give a rat’s patootie about he GOP any more. Only to the extent that we can extort actions like this shutdown, etc. will I tolerate them. No money, not votes, no nothing for any GOPe anymore.

My vote, support and money are now only for Conservatives.


8 posted on 10/12/2013 5:24:28 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: duckman

King is auditioning for the token Republican seat in the next Democrat cabinet and like many out here in fly over country, he knows Cruz is probably the only Republican that stands a snowballs chance in Hell of winning


9 posted on 10/12/2013 5:26:54 AM PDT by Tupelo (Snatching Defeat from the jaws of Victory, an old Republican Tradition.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yesterday on CNN saw him riffing and heard the favorable crowd reactions while I had a breakfast sandwich at McDbag, he was definitely on the vik’!


10 posted on 10/12/2013 5:28:42 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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[snip] Paul’s and Rubio’s dodges, and Ryan’s implicit rebuke, demonstrate that they are seeking to avoid being tainted by the fight’s fallout while avoiding any confrontation with the party’s base. [/snip]


11 posted on 10/12/2013 5:31:08 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If Cruz or Palin are not eh presidential candidates at this point in time I guess I will be writing in a name.

None of the others impress me a bit.


12 posted on 10/12/2013 5:33:40 AM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: Gaffer

I agree with your assessment about the demise of the “elitist appeasing Republican establishment.” Just one thing to note: the RNC continues to fund raise using voices like McCain in letters to rail about the far-left Dem agenda. The disconnect between the fund raising letters and their actual rhetoric in DC is astounding. They now how the base feels, but are completely unwilling to represent the base in DC.


13 posted on 10/12/2013 5:34:01 AM PDT by vekzen
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To: Tupelo
Cruz also said that the Obamacare battle is a key battle in the larger war for individual freedom. That's a mighty big and important issue. I find nothing for individual freedom in Paul Ryan's so-called grand bargain.
14 posted on 10/12/2013 5:38:04 AM PDT by MulberryDraw (That which cannot be paid, won't be paid.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Sometimes people are more interested in what a politician doesn’t do than they are about what they say they will do.


15 posted on 10/12/2013 5:38:20 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

By the time 2016 rolls around history will have validated that attempting to stop Obiecare will have been worth the shutdown and many will wish that the battle had been more vigiorusly engaged.


16 posted on 10/12/2013 5:38:29 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Gaffer; Tupelo; All

Rush put it so well Friday: The GOP should be doing everything to make their best customer base (conservatives, grass roots, Tea Party) happy and coming back, but they aren’t.


17 posted on 10/12/2013 5:38:40 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Yes. Yes. Yes.


18 posted on 10/12/2013 5:39:34 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

So do we vote for the balless and the gutless?
So I guess we know who we have to vote for, CRUZ 2016


19 posted on 10/12/2013 5:40:59 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: P-Marlowe

Nah, GOP is the right wing of the Democratic party.


20 posted on 10/12/2013 5:41:12 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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