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Did Crayon Pop blow it with hate talk? (South Korea)
Korea Times ^ | 08/21/2013 | Jung Min-ho

Posted on 08/21/2013 11:14:26 PM PDT by TexGrill

It wasn’t long ago when Crayon Pop, the goofy five-member girl band, seemed like the hottest new act in K-pop. Now they seem all but toast after its members got too cute with Internet hate speech.

The controversy began to build up in June, when Way, one of the Crayon Pop singers, tweeted ''You know you guys were 'nomu nomu’ (very very) awesome today, right? We’re jealous of all your fashion sense. To our nomu cute fans, thank you and thank you.’’ And in an earlier television appearance, Choa was called by another member ''jjeolttuki’’ after coming to the stage dragging a foot.

Neither ''nomu nomu’’ nor ''jjeolttuki’’ are commonly advised for everyday speech, definitely not when you’re talking to an Internet or television audience. In the language of ''Ilbe’’ (www.ilbe.com), an online message board dominated by people supporting ultra right-wing politics, these words are disrespectful nicknames for late former Presidents Roh Moo-hyun and Kim Dae-jung, the last liberal candidates to have reached Cheong Wa Dae.

''Jjeolttuk’’ is particularly discomforting because it can be translated as ''a cripple.’’ Kim spent the larger part of his life as a politician with a hitch in his walk after suffering from torture during the military dictatorship.

(Excerpt) Read more at koreatimes.co.kr ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Humor; Music/Entertainment; Society
KEYWORDS: southkorea
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Defective helmets???


1 posted on 08/21/2013 11:14:26 PM PDT by TexGrill
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To: TexGrill

The hell did I just read?


2 posted on 08/21/2013 11:27:49 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Demand Common Sense Nut Control.)
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To: The KG9 Kid

I have no idea either. I just remember a Freeper from Hawaii did a post about these helmet heads, so I wanted to do a follow-up story.


3 posted on 08/21/2013 11:29:58 PM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: The KG9 Kid

Apparently the Korean terms for “very very” and “cripple” is considered hate speech by some.

weird


4 posted on 08/21/2013 11:30:39 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: TexGrill
They're cuter without the helmets.

In the looks department, SNSD seems (at a glance) to have cuter girls.

Never heard their stuff.


5 posted on 08/21/2013 11:31:31 PM PDT by SIDENET
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To: TexGrill
Rippled
6 posted on 08/21/2013 11:33:45 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: SIDENET

I agree, they don’t need the helmets.


7 posted on 08/21/2013 11:37:31 PM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: TexGrill

I just watched about eleven seconds of this “Crayon Pop” group on YouTube and decided that I now know all I will ever need to know about Korean girl groups. It was like Klingon kabuki nitwit theatre from the future on crack. With helmets, yet.

And with that, I shall take my leave. I will not be returning to this thread.

Good DAY sir.


8 posted on 08/21/2013 11:41:47 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Demand Common Sense Nut Control.)
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To: The KG9 Kid

I’ve watched a lot of Kpop.... but the helmet thing I do not get


9 posted on 08/21/2013 11:42:44 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Berlin_Freeper

weird!


10 posted on 08/21/2013 11:43:00 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: The KG9 Kid

I’m lucky. I’m in China and they banned YouTube, so I can’t watch the video in question. By the way, how does the video compare to Gangnam-style? Just curious.


11 posted on 08/21/2013 11:44:05 PM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: TexGrill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMqL1iWfku4

I think they need trampolines.

12 posted on 08/21/2013 11:49:53 PM PDT by TChad
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To: The KG9 Kid

I am asking the same question. Can someone translate? ROFL

Not sure but I think someone in a girl group band insulted a past president of South Korea or something and it was on a Right Wing Internet Board or something to that effect.

OR

A female in a pop group went on the internet and I guess gave a positive criticism about someone fashion calling it Nunu or something like that(No relation to Birdie Num Num - Peter Sellers - The Party) on a Right Wing Board. Whatever she called that person was an insult to a past president of South Korea (Which it was toward North Korea).

So there is my take =) CONFUZZLED


13 posted on 08/22/2013 12:17:51 AM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: Pan_Yan

anything??


14 posted on 08/22/2013 12:21:28 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Patriot Babe

Apparently “shut up and sing” is a good idea but the story makes it sound like she was talking about fashion.


15 posted on 08/22/2013 12:24:53 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: TexGrill
http://www.kpopstarz.com/articles/38544/20130821/crayon-pop-ilbe-president.htm

With their song "Bar Bar Bar" in the number one spot on Billboard K-Pop Hot 100 this week on the strength of a viral video that has earned over 3 million YouTube views, K-pop girl group Crayon Pop should be on top of the world.

Yet, greater visibility offers more chances to stir up controversy and the five members of Crayon Pop have been doing exactly that lately.

The most recent ruckus arose from what was perceived as a former affiliation by Crayon Pop's members to the controversial South Korean social networking site Ilbe or "Daily Best."

The website is known for having members that express extreme right-wing, anti-communist and sexist views, according to the publication eNEWS.

Crayon Pop came under fire for using the word "hobbler," used by Ilbe users to mock former South Korean President Kim Dae Jung.

An official statement released by the band's record label Chrome Entertainment on Wednesday called the whole thing a misunderstanding.

"One member used the word ′hobbler′ when she saw another member limping," the statement read.

"We′re surprised to find that the word can be used to put down the late former president Kim Dae Jung. We are, however, regretting that she used the word without thinking that it could hurt the feelings of those with real handicaps."

Several members of Crayon Pop were also believed to be referencing Ilbe by using the slogan "no moo no moo," as a way of saying "very, very."

"No moo no moo," was used on the controversial website to mock former President Roh Moo Hyun.

The Chrome Entertainment statement emphasized that Crayon Pop had no idea they were making political references.

"Crayon Pop members are not members of Ilbe," the statement read./font>

"[One band] member just used 'no moo no moo' in an effort to look cute. The member didn't know that her comment could be interpreted in a political way, and she didn't know that the word was used by Ilbe to put down the late former president Roh Moo Hyun. This is because she had never been on Ilbe."

The incident led to Crayon Pop being dropped, at least temporarily, from an online shopping ad campaign.


This is like Justin Beiber getting attacked as a right-winger if he used the word "dittoes" or something


16 posted on 08/22/2013 12:31:20 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Patriot Babe

Sure.

Someone in SK media wants to make a name for themselves ab=nd get a job in American media/MSNBC. So they viewed a simple common words there through the PC prism and ascribed hate speech to them to create a controversy where none was intended or existed.

It’s like here when someone says “It was dark last night” and some idiot screams racism over the word ‘dark’ or ‘That’s gay” getting the fudge fraternity in an uproar.


17 posted on 08/22/2013 12:34:49 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: GeronL

That article was a little better to understand than the Korea Times story I posted. I initially assumed they got into a nasty netizen debate over the latest helmet fashion triends, and calling those who disagreed with them, “cripples.”


18 posted on 08/22/2013 12:36:02 AM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: TexGrill

lolz

“Your a helmet head!”

“Your a cripple!”

“You are shortbus!”

lol


19 posted on 08/22/2013 12:37:30 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: TexGrill

If they were actually on the site in question and commenting about those former Presidents, then there might actually be something to be offended by if your a lefty. Except this is none of that, they are not members and they did not post anything to the so-called “right-wing” site.


20 posted on 08/22/2013 12:42:44 AM PDT by GeronL
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