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Lieutenant Harry Thomas is retired from the police department of Cincinnati, Ohio. A former member of the boards of the National Rifle Association and the Ohio Gun Collectors Association, he was twice the victim of assassination attempts by his own superiors for his stance in support of gun ownership and against police excesses. He now resides in the Greater Indianapolis area.
1 posted on 08/17/2013 8:41:23 AM PDT by bamahead
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2 posted on 08/17/2013 8:42:05 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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"he was twice the victim of assassination attempts by his own superiors"

Where are those stories available?

3 posted on 08/17/2013 8:51:05 AM PDT by Paladin2
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Thanks for your service, Lt. Thomas. I get the feeling you would not fit in with today’s “breed” of LEO’s who are nothing more than an organized crime gang working for a government entity.


6 posted on 08/17/2013 8:59:26 AM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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Another reason for decriminalizing drugs.


7 posted on 08/17/2013 9:03:05 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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This article explains it better than I could.


10 posted on 08/17/2013 9:11:16 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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100%!!!

11 posted on 08/17/2013 9:17:36 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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We currently live in a county with a terrific sheriff who supports constitutional carry. He recognizes that the citizens are responsible for defending themselves. It seems that the LEOs who want to disarm us are very fearful. It’s sad to know that Serpico-type situations are still going on.


12 posted on 08/17/2013 9:17:41 AM PDT by Silentgypsy (:))
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Related: Police Seizing Cash And Property From Citizens Without Charges

A disturbing article in The New Yorker magazine mentions several instances of police seizing cash from citizens. The cops used a legal doctrine called forfeiture to seize the cash. The frightening thing is that the cash and valuables can be taken without an arrest or even criminal charges. They can simply seize it on probable cause and in many cases that have nothing to do with drugs.

State and federal laws now authorize forfeiture for a wide variety of crimes, many of them quite minor. You can have property or cash seized for such offenses as cockfighting, drag racing, gambling, illegal fishing, and more. The most bothersome detail is that many police departments consider forfeiture money part of their budgets.

The Monroe, North Carolina, police department wants to use $44,000 in drug money to buy a drone to spy on local residents, New Yorker reporter Sarah Stillman noted. Stillman thinks the drone would be used to patrol local roads looking for more vehicles to seize.

13 posted on 08/17/2013 9:21:47 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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I’ve repeated this anecdote several times on Free Republic, and it is always met with skepticism. I am merely relaying the claim of a person I believe to reliable and trustworthy, told to me in a manner that leads me to believe that it is true.

My cousin, who served as a member of the NYPD for twenty years, including stints in Harlem and Bedford-Stuyvesant, retiring as a Detective Lieutenant on the Manhattan DA’s homicide squad, claims that in 20 years on the force, he never drew his weapon once.


15 posted on 08/17/2013 9:25:51 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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In police-public relations, it is important to look at both sides of the coin. But this is usually done with the police on one side, and people who hate the police on the other side.

However, the vast majority of people *don’t* hate the police, and are often more than willing to help the police, sometimes directly, and sometimes indirectly. And the more that police realize this, the more they might be inclined to take advantage of this help to achieve some rather important goals for society.

In particular, I am thinking of the many situations where the police are constrained, but the public is not.

I first learned of this in a situation that was *almost* corrupt, but whose overall ends were worth at least some consideration.

A city had a newly elected liberal government, that was pretty much anti-police, making their ROE impossibly strict, and in the face of a particularly nasty and violent criminal element, risking the lives of the police and the public. However, someone in the PD came up with an effective end-around to the problem.

The city also had an “outlaw” motorcycle gang of some size. And while they involved themselves with some crime and violence, it was never too obnoxious, mostly in-house, and it was never really offensive to the public or the police. They even “arrested well”, when the police were ordered to suppress them some, which they were at intervals.

In any event, the police reached an “entent” with the MC gang, so if they were in a position of conflict with a “protected person”, the cop would “call a biker”, to “resolve” the evil liver, after the cop left.

The technique proved effective at keeping the violent criminal element under control, at the price of the police being less inclined to hassle the bikers over mostly minor things.

I use this as an extreme example, but also to illustrate how the police may get some cooperation from the public.

It is an often used plot device in police dramas, that a particularly nasty, threatening and murderous criminal offender is held at police gunpoint, which is usually resolved by the policeman arresting them, “letting the courts handle it”, instead of the emotionally gratifying execution of “someone who needs killing.”

However, in many cases, the public is not held to this standard. If they feel “at imminent risk” from a vicious criminal, in most states they can act as “judge, jury and executioner”, putting down said criminal without having to carefully follow all the rules set forth by the police.

Now, this being said, the police are often aware of many honest people, who are well armed and willing and likely to defend themselves, their family and property, from violent criminals.

So when the police are constrained from righteously killing some evil fiend, there is nothing preventing them from subtly steering the villain into trespass against an armed and prepared honest citizen willing to dispatch them.

Of course there is no copyright on this idea, and it has likely been done by police for many years, solving many of the worst villains in society.


17 posted on 08/17/2013 9:35:58 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Be Brave! Fear is just the opposite of Nar!)
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Back in 1998-1999 I was a visiting professor in Turkey. I had an apartment on campus. One day I was walking to the Engineering Building for my class, and I saw a tank sitting at the gate to the University. Incredible. I had never even heard of the idea of a "police tank" before. Certainly not in the good old USA.

In front of my building there was a row of cops with big plexiglass shields and batons. It seems the Administration was taking precautions against a student riot because of a new government regulation on universities. Fortunately we didn't have a riot.

What was unheard of less than 15 years ago is unfortunately now commonplace here at home.

20 posted on 08/17/2013 10:38:06 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney
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Don’t forget to say “oops” when you find out your in the wrong house. The real criminal heard everything and has been busy at the toilet.


24 posted on 08/17/2013 4:35:03 PM PDT by LevinFan
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There is no doubt about it. Our law enforcement agencies on a local and state level need to be demilitarized. All raids except ones involving a hostage situation should be conducted in Patrolman Uniform. Raids should only be allowed for apprehending violent felons and if possible at a time when only the wanted is in the location.

Under penalty of perjury all warrants should be sworn statements that a witnessed offense has occurred. A Paid Snitch should not be considered a reliable source. Multiple methods should be required to determine & confirm the correct address and current occupants of address. No exceptions.

All military attire, equipment, vehicles, aircraft, and weapons except a secured armory with a limited number of fully automatic rifles let's say 5% vs number on force should taken away. A cop should be allowed a service sidearm and even a back up sidearm, a shotgun, and a semi automatic rifle kept in patrol car. ALL Vehicles engaging in traffic stops and responding to calls at residence should be marked patrol cars with light bar and uniformed officer. With the newer low profile lightbars the day of the unmarked car should be over except for stake outs etc.

Most federal agencies such as the EPA, FDA, Dept of AG, Dept of Interior except for park rangers, BLM, and many others should not be allowed to have their own police force except in cases of actual bonified national security. Others such as TVA where power plants are being guarded should be armed and have full jurisdiction limited to the facility and property itself unless in actual active persuit. The IRS does not need a police force either. Most agencies do not need to be in law enforcement.

All officers should upon being hired be required or the agency hiring be required to post a minimal $500,000 bond for liability purposes with the agency matching that bond. Under no circumstances except where life inside a residence is at risk should a raid occur at night after 8:00PM.

Under criminal penalty any LEO conducting a raid on a wrong place of residence as in wrong address or person moved many weeks ago should personally be held fiscally liable for damages and any mental anguish etc suffered and dismissed with a five year ban on working as a LEO. Employment after that should required a complete re-certification including academy.

Any officers conducting a raid on a wrong address or wrong persons residence resulting in physical injury or death of innocent persons inside should be held criminally responsible up too and including murder charges and should be banned from LEO for life.

All property forfeitures should only be allowed after criminal conviction and all proceeds from sale given to non profit non law enforcement and non judical connected community services and victim compensation with victim compensation being priority. Property seizures and forfeitures should not be a source of acquiring revenue, equipment, etc by law enforcement agencies or governments. If Officer Friday pulls over Joe Public and Joe Public has let's say $50,000 cash even if a dog hits on Joe's cash {which most money is tainted} Officer Fridays should not be allowed to take that cash unless other very overwhelming evidence is present and warrant is sworn and served.

Law enforcement agencies on all levels have damaged their own professional integrity and as a result ahve lost public trust. As such they need to be the ones to show the public corrections in their policies. I can take $10 to a Flea Market and buy a black Tee shirt with police agency logo. So can a criminal. Patrol uniforms with agency ID and badge are a lot harder to come by.

I know there are some good dedicated cops out there who go about their job in a professional manner and when approaching the public use The Golden Rule. This post was not directed at such as they.

29 posted on 08/17/2013 7:22:47 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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33 posted on 11/28/2013 5:11:43 AM PST by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger than yours)
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