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Why I Called Out Joel Osteen and Joyce Meyer
ChurchisMessy.com ^ | 8-5-2013 | Rick Henderson

Posted on 08/14/2013 5:18:31 PM PDT by servo1969

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To: servo1969

I don’t trust Hank Hanegraaff. First he proclaims healing ended sometime ago. The Bible doesn’t say that. And Hanegraaff embraces the flawed belief that the church replaced Israel.

For this person to be influenced by Hanegraaff and his flawed theology has me questioning this entire op-ed.


41 posted on 08/14/2013 7:53:27 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: jsanders2001

I actually like Hagee and I’m a unique kinda Christian. He makes a lot of sense, I don’t think this guy would have an issue with him.


42 posted on 08/14/2013 8:28:17 PM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: servo1969
I attended a faith and word church for years...I can attest to the self absorbed, name it and claim it gospel and all of it's damages. This one thing I know that is certain...

1 John 2:27:As for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him.

43 posted on 08/14/2013 8:40:48 PM PDT by hope (Whom the Son sets free is free indeed!)
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To: Secret Agent Man
I'll take the anointing of the Holy Spirit over seminary book learning any time. "He who has ears to hear, let him hear!"
44 posted on 08/14/2013 9:00:11 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: time4good

This is all fantasy-land nonsense. There is no god.


45 posted on 08/14/2013 9:26:58 PM PDT by Rocky Mountain High
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To: servo1969

Ricky has his own dogma... which is ok with me.. he may have a few points as well..
Harshing Joyce or Osteen is tacky.. like “he knows” and you don’t..

What does he know?... he has his opinion.. like the apostles...
Who did not agree on everything either..

Heck the first Pope was a married Jew(Peter).. according to most/many roman catholics...
Which is also OK with me.. I like many Jews..

The sheep in the sheep pens need to be sheared.. it’s good for them..
Entertainment needs to be paid for... if you do not like the act.. get out..
Most churches I’ve seen are a business.. don’t like it, stop being a customer..
But most of all STOP BITCHING.. lack of faith is whiney..


46 posted on 08/14/2013 9:29:24 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Sioux-san

The comment really wasn’t about Hagee who I know little about; it was really about the others mentioned.


47 posted on 08/14/2013 9:30:02 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: servo1969

It’s all about one’s personal relationship with Christ anyway.


48 posted on 08/14/2013 9:30:09 PM PDT by 38special (For real, y'all.)
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To: servo1969; All

hmmm - maybe the little green monster is at work - re Meyer.

People who are successful above others always have those who are jealous of what they have acheived -

I really like Meyer -

for example: (I don’t listen that often but I always feel she says something that speaks to me personally - in one, she speaks about the individual talens God gives us - and if we aren’t using them WHY AREN’T YOU! I won’t tell you what talent I have not used now for over 10 years - a talent I know I should be using. So I guess this was the video I was meant to hear tonight - I feel like God was poking me in the forehead and saying: “WELL? When are you ging to get with it?” Funny thing is, I now feel like starting in first thing tomorrow. God always seems to bring the message He want’s us to hear, when we need to hear it - and we never know who or what He’s going to use to deliver the message for Him. The trick is for us to be listening so’s we hear it.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IBC1aRjPuM


49 posted on 08/14/2013 10:16:25 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: SubMareener

yeah all God’s prophets need 10 million dollar personal jets and multiple mansions to live in.


50 posted on 08/14/2013 10:43:29 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“yeah all God’s prophets need 10 million dollar personal jets and multiple mansions to live in.”

Indeed. There’s an amazing lack of discernment in Christendom. Joyce Meyer has always been like fingernails on a chalk board to me. That’s the way my spirit reacts. There’s plenty of info available about her lifestyle available for anyone to examine. Osteen- offended by the gospel message, otherwise he’d preach the whole gospel and take a stand when confronted. He doesn’t want to offend, but the gospel message offends. The bible is clear on that. If you want an eye opening experience, go to a church service conducted in a completely different language, and I don’t mean Catholic. You can just about pull out a stop watch and time the crescendo of the sermon to when the offering plate is passed. It can be quite a study in audience manipulation. I’ve heard Joyce preach plenty of times, but it was at a time of day I couldn’t stop what I was doing to sit down to watch her on tv. Perhaps not being mesmerized by her stage presence and theatrics helped me with discernment.

Give me neither riches or poverty...lay not up riches on earth...if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that....

Not seeing a mansion on earth, a Lear jet, a limo.... At least even a broken clock is right twice a day.


51 posted on 08/15/2013 3:47:57 AM PDT by pops88 (Geek chick standing with Breitbart for truth)
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To: servo1969

ping


52 posted on 08/15/2013 8:04:55 AM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: jodyel

Reminds me of the time my older brother, who took two years of theology at Loyola CHI before transferring to AZ when we moved here, argued scripture for scripture with two Jehovah’s Witnesses that made the mistake of stopping by after he had three beers in him. The discussion went on for two hours and they left dejected they were unable to keep up. LOL (That would never of happened before his three years as a MARINE.)


53 posted on 08/15/2013 11:33:31 AM PDT by az wildkitten (8 years 'til I retire)
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To: az wildkitten

That’s why I don’t do it...cause I cannot keep up. Have made the mistake of doing it here and already find myself vastly outdone by the Freepers. It will wear you out.

So I’ll keep quiet (famous last words).

Thanks for sharing the story!


54 posted on 08/15/2013 4:06:49 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: RginTN

Thinking the exact same thing.


55 posted on 08/15/2013 4:10:07 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: Sioux-san

Duel-Covenant Theology, perhaps?


56 posted on 08/15/2013 4:14:52 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: Truth2012

Try Dr. Charles Stanley, pastor of the First Baptist Church in Atlanta, GA.

Excellent teaching ministry!


57 posted on 08/15/2013 4:17:56 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: OrangeHoof

Just posted re: to another Freeper.

He is my only trusted (human) source too.


58 posted on 08/15/2013 4:19:34 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: pops88

Perhaps the Lord has blessed her with all of those things, so that WE can learn the meaning of Thou Shall NOT COVET.


59 posted on 08/15/2013 4:28:22 PM PDT by Truth2012
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To: Truth2012

I personally don’t covet what she has, and I’d be surprised if it was actually the Lord that “blessed” her with her treasures on earth. I am, however, certain that the Lord has allowed her to become what she has become and uses her to His purpose. Some people will learn and grow, others will fall into deception and be led astray.


60 posted on 08/15/2013 4:56:17 PM PDT by pops88 (Geek chick standing with Breitbart for truth)
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