Posted on 08/13/2013 3:18:46 AM PDT by TexGrill
The former head of the National Security Agency said Sunday that not only does ending the NSAs domestic surveillance programs seems unlikely, but he images those endeavors could expand in scope during the coming years.
Former NSA chief Michael Hayden told television host Bob Schieffer of CBS Face the Nation over the weekend that the current program that collects the metadata of millions of American phone customers on a regular basis for the United States government could in the future perhaps be used to soak up even more statistics about US citizens.
In early June, former NSA contractor Edward Snowden leaked classified documents showing that the US government compels telecommunication companies to hand over telephony metadata basic user records for all customers on a routine basis. The intelligence community claims it uses that information in order to track down suspected terrorists by tracing their paths of communication, but Mr. Hayden said over the weekend that in the future those statistics could be queried for different reasons.
But you got this metadata here, Hayden told Schieffer. It's now queried under very, very narrow circumstances. If the nation suffers an attack, there are other things you could do with that metadata. There are other tools. So in that kind of an emergency, perhaps, you would go to the court and say, In addition to these very limited queries we're now allowed to do, we actually want to launch some complex algorithms against it.
That's the kind of argument that, frankly, even I could accept you might want to have an advocate there, added Hayden, who also served as director of the Central Intelligence Agency under President George W. Bush.
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In the name of combatting terrorism, we are moving to a total surveillance and total control society where every single move or communication is captured and studied. Such power can assure that Obama or whoever are perpetually in power and can be employed to sanction and destroy any opposition.
At least this guy is telling the truth.
The intelligence gathering is going to gat worse instead of better. That lying sissy boy Muslim in the White House said just the opposite.
If they cared about security they would secure the border and stop importing terrorists.
At this point I think they import terrorists to justify spying.
But they are not spying on you. /sarcasm
When intelligence was ignored on the Boston bombers group from Russia ... one is safe in making the assumption they know and knew and caring about security is and was not a concern. No doubt creek! Maybe I just made another list.
Nothing but a jobs program for politically connected contractors like Booz Allen who were once the employer of both James Clapper and James Woolsey.
Another liar. If they can do it, they are doing it, without regard to warrants or anything else. They built the systems, they are using them. I'd wager the warrants are post-facto to any evidence gathering.
All that will result is that the bad guys will develop other ways to communicate. Peer-to-peer encrypted, coded messages, want ads, Craigslist, etc. There are still means to communicate that will delay things enough to do bad deeds and get away anonymously.
These types of systems will also make the cops blind/unaware of events operating outside the systems reach. Within a generation of cops that depend on this sensory surveillance data, they won't even be able to take a finger print.
I saw the interview and whooped when h said smething like I had just told sme friends,that they had too many people involved and needed to up technology.
I had 30 years of active military and contractor service, most with top clearances,including intel. I had background checks for each new job that took 6 months or more.
I think technology got ahead of these agencies and they had to depend on people WITHOUT proper background investigation.
obama would never had got past the first checks. So ths admin prob relaxed requirements across the board. clinton did this to, I believe.
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LOL creek! Those eyes tell me all necessary to know.
The frightening thing is the fact that Obama’s eyes are always full of anger like that. He was smiling in the picture I took that from.
Did you hear or see the report this A.M. from what appears to be a British intelligence source, reported on cbs, that took a shot across zer0's bow?
He seems pretty intent on isolating America from our traditional allies.
-——The intelligence gathering is going to gat worse-——
I don’t think that’s what he said. What he said was the same data gathered now would or could be used for different purposes than now. (If they gather all the metadata, it can’t be increased)
I take that to mean that the developing algorithms mentioned will be more capable of narrowing targeted individuals or groups. That is the sifting will be more through.
For catching bad guys, the intent, that is good. But like other law enforcement tools like guns, if turned against the population is bad.
Totally oblivious to the Libertarian Tsunami that’s building just beyond the horizon in our politics...
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