The information that is actually on the list in List 2 matches what is on List 1.
The HDOH’s own explanation for how they do verifications contradicts what you are claiming. They say they can only verify information that is actually submitted. The only way it would even be possible for them to do otherwise - the only way that anybody could be confused about that at all - is if they actually list on the verification ALL the items that they are verifying, and they want to make it clear that they will not verify all the facts of birth if only one or two are submitted for verification.
And it is contradicted by the very verification itself, because they mention ONLY Honolulu. If the verification itself was verification of every fact submitted then they should not have picked out one lone “fact” and mentioned it in the verification.
All they verified was the existence of a birth certificate for Barack Hussein Obama, II.
And the truth of the matter is that Onaka did not legally certify any of the verifications. The seal on those verifications is not Onaka’s seal. And the person whose seal it is (Loretta Fuddy’s) did not sign anything on those verifications. So we’ve got mismatched seal and signature, resulting in a document that isn’t lawfully certified - leaving neither Onaka nor Fuddy culpable for the greater crime of perjury, although both are still culpable under the Federal General False Statement Act.
The long and the short of it is that Hawaii was required to give a certified verification of every submitted fact that they can verify as true, and they gave a non-certified statement that refused to even MENTION any fact submitted on the application form except Honolulu (and their mention of Honolulu was only that it was “indicated” on the BC).
This matches the private statement by one of the HDOH workers that all verification requests - even ones known to be legally acceptable - had to be sent to the AG’s office so the AG could find a reason to deny the request, since it would look fishy if they give letters of verification for others but never for Obama. Because they would never issue a letter of verification for Obama. And they didn’t issue a legally-certified letter of verification for Obama. The director’s seal is supposed to be used next to the signature of the director, and Fuddy’s name is not on any of those letters of verification.
It is also consistent with Janice Okubo’s official UIPA response to me that they don’t issue letters of verification - in response to my request for a blank copy of the form they use to issue letters of verification. She said what I requested doesn’t exist because they don’t do letters of verification. Now we see OHSM FORM V-01 (08/01/01), which Okubo told me doesn’t exist. And we see a supposedly-certified letter of verification that Okubo said they don’t do. But it isn’t lawfully certified and it doesn’t verify any of the facts submitted on the verification application.
Also, the way of requesting a letter of verification is the same way of requesting a certified copy of a BC. If they have to have all the critical information submitted so they can verify that a BC exists for that person, then Obama didn’t submit enough information to be able to get copies of his BC; in Corley’s letter requesting the long-form (seen at http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-correspondence.pdf) there is no mention of an application form - the only attachment she mentions is a letter from Obama - and the birth facts supposedly necessary for “locating” the BC were not included in her letter OR Obama’s.
What I’ve been saying all along about these supposed “letters of verification” for Obama not verifying anything is supported by the statutes, Ken Bennett’s own acknowledgment, what can be seen physically and forensically on the documents themselves, and both official/public and private communications by multiple HDOH workers. In addition, the records released by the White House show that Obama’s own request does not fulfill the legal requirements to get either a BC copy or a verification, if your theory about how they do things is correct.
“The HDOH’s own explanation ...they want to make it clear that they will not verify all the facts of birth if only one or two are submitted for verification.”
If someone sends in a request for a verification and they only include two facts on the request form - they would get a letter verifying that a vital record - birth - exists for that person. That would verify the two facts but nothing else.
“And it is contradicted by the very verification ...they should not have picked out one lone “fact” and mentioned it in the verification.”
Why not? Dr. Onaka decided for whatever reason to include Honolulu that doesn’t mean he is also required to added the other items from the request form. He verified the name Barack Hussein Obama, II twice, why would he do that? You are assuming there is a standard format for these verifications and there may be, but based on the only ones that are public, we cannot know what format is standard.
“The seal on those verifications is not Onaka’s seal.”
How do you know that? From what I can see they use at least two different seals on their BCs.
“they gave a non-certified statement”
How many of the state’s attorney generals or secretaries of state agreed with your theory?
“Now we see OHSM FORM V-01 (08/01/01), which Okubo told me doesn’t exist.”
It doesn’t surprise me that she wouldn’t know about such a form. How many letters of verification do think they have issued in the last 10 years? I would guess three. So she wasn’t aware of a form that they almost never use. And if you look at OHSM FORM V-01 (08/01/01), it appears to be nothing more than a header
“Obama didn’t submit enough information to be able to get copies of his BC”
Really, you think that when they got his letter, they scratched their heads and said “Wow, we don’t have enough information to do a search.” After all the inquires, lawsuits and publicity, they really would require him to fill out the complete form? You may not realize it but rich, and famous people get benefits and shortcuts that you and I don’t get. It’s not fair but that’s the way it is.