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To: GregNH; Cold Case Posse Supporter; butterdezillion
Which different from the posted version.

No, the image and information are exactly the same.

How do you know it’s an original document?

Um... because you can see it's a paper document? Because Savannah Guthrie said she felt the raised seal, and you can see that it's got a seal?

And the cross-hatches on that photo don’t match the ones that the HDOH uses either...

Really? How do you know exactly what safety paper the Hawaii Department of Health uses? And did you ever think that they might use different batches or even different brands of safety paper from time to time?

Aside from all of which, the State of Hawaii has confirmed again and again that yes, they have Obama's birth certificate on file. Yes, it's the original birth certificate. Yes, he was born in Hawaii. Yes, they sent him two copies.

They even linked to the image supplied by the White House.

But let's waste some more conservative resources on the birther mythology. Heck, there's nothing important to talk about. Nothing like actual abuse on the part of this government, or coverups of scummy stuff they did in the Benghazi affair, or the IRS targeting tea party groups for special mistreatment, or anything like that.

61 posted on 08/08/2013 3:47:38 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston

I have seen the security paper that they used 2 weeks after Obama’s was supposedly printed, and it does not match what is on the White House image - which Onaka refused to verify was a “true and accurate representation of the original record on file.”

Why won’t you believe the legal disclosure of the official custodian of the original record - the only person authorized and legally required to verify what is and isn’t contained on a legally-valid record?

And talk about wasting time. Tell me one scandal that hasn’t been a “waste of time” in the same way that you say this is a waste of time. People are dead in Fast & Furious and Benghazi, just like people are dead from the eligibility issue, and none of them makes a hootin’ hill of difference to the DC guttersnipes. Because they have all said to hell with the rule of law - starting with letting this usurper in office in the first place. Once you’ve given up the rule of law, it’s just a political free-for-all, which is exactly what we’ve got right now. IOW, on all these other issues and everything else we are now eating the lawlessness sh!t sandwich that folks like you said was a waste of time confronting. Tastes real good, huh? There’s no going back to the rule of law until folks like you admit that you made a big-time mistake and reassert that the rule of law DOES matter. Does it matter, Jeff, or do you echo Hillary’s dimissal of the deaths she is responsible for, with “At this point, what difference does it make?”?

If the rule of law doesn’t matter, then why are we even wasting our time on stuff like the Constitution or feigning outrage over stuff that doesn’t even matter? The rule of law is the foundational principle of civilization. When a society says nothing matters, they have become less human than the animals and all that’s left is survival of the fittest.


64 posted on 08/08/2013 8:30:30 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Jeff Winston

That information “matches” is meaningless. It is incomplete.

To illustrate:

I have a sheet of paper with 5 items on it.

You have a sheet of paper with 3 items on it.

Those three items match 3 of my 5.

What about those other two items?

What kind of items? Amendments.

We need the FACTS, not what they were made to appear as circa 2006.


75 posted on 08/08/2013 9:01:24 PM PDT by Ray76 ( Common sense immigration reform: Enforce Existing Law)
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