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Xerox 7655 Overview Picture (Obot claims to replicate Obama LFBC pdf w/floating signature)
Native and Natural Born Citizenship Explored ^ | August 6, 2013 | NBC

Posted on 08/07/2013 6:29:11 PM PDT by Seizethecarp

The following image is a composite created by scanning the WH LFBC using Xerox WorkCentre 7655 upside down using the automatic feeder. The resulting file was opened in Preview, the image rotated 180 degrees and printed to PDF. The resulting PDF was opened in preview, the layers unlocked and moved to the side. In addition, a close up of the signature was ‘blown up’ to show how the background layer, not surprisingly, has filled in some of the white that resulted from the separation of the background and foreground layers.

Note how for example the signature block is fully separated.

(Excerpt) Read more at nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; computers; fogbowinfestation; fraud; joearpaio; mikezullo; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamamother; scanners; stanleyanndunham; teaparty; xerox
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

NBC is known to doctor video and audio media so their credibility nothing but crap.


341 posted on 08/12/2013 1:35:47 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

“The information on the COLB is not validated due to Alvin Onaka not verifying the information on the long form is ‘a True And Accurate Representation Of The Original Record’”
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LOL, back on that silly old hobby-horse? It’s been explained to you repeatedly.

It’s not even remotely Onaka’s job when issuing a Letter of Verification to verify that any record is a true and accurate representation of anything else.

I’ve quoted the law to you before, and I’ll be happy to do it again (HRS §338-14.3, excerpt):

“...the department of health, upon request, shall furnish to any applicant, in lieu of the issuance of a certified copy, a verification of the existence of a certificate and any other information that the applicant provides to be verified relating to the vital event that pertains to the certificate.”

Got that? It’s about verifying the *information* in a document. That’s what the law authorizes, and that’s what Onaka has done.

That means that if I scribble on a piece of paper, “Barack Obama was born on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu,” it can accurately be said that that information matches what’s in Hawaii’s official records, because the DoH has said so. They haven’t said anything about whether the piece of paper is a birth certificate. But they have said that the information, that Barack Obama was born on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, is correct according to their official records.

As long as you continue to pretend that verifying the information in a document is indistinguishable from verifying the document, you will continue to make no sense.

Now, if you want to prove that the official DoH records are false, or that the DoH officials are lying, knock yourself out. I’d be interested in seeing that myself.

But my original point stands. The DoH has confirmed that the information in the COLB matches their official records. And they have done it by means of what is without question a self-authenticating document under FRE 902.


342 posted on 08/12/2013 1:42:26 PM PDT by BigGuy22
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To: Red Steel

What gets me is at one point after the long form was released, the Fogbowers and Dr. Conspiracy relied on John Woodman’s experiment as the gospel that the document was authentic and a closed case. Now since professional forensic handwriting and computer-document expert Reed Hayes independent 40 page report was done with evidence proving the document is a 100% forgery, they have now come up with this experiment claiming to be the holy grail that proves the document authentic.


343 posted on 08/12/2013 1:45:40 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Interesting.

Is anyone in touch with John Woodman? I’d like to know what he thinks of DrC’s analysis and whether he feels it’s consistent with his own findings.


344 posted on 08/12/2013 1:55:50 PM PDT by BigGuy22
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To: Fantasywriter

If obotorrhoids are on better behavior, it’s because they don’t want to get zotted, I am sure. Not due to conscience!


345 posted on 08/12/2013 1:57:04 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Red Steel

I thought mods could detect IP addresses of returning bannees. It’s okay to do this retread thing now?


346 posted on 08/12/2013 1:57:56 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter
Yes, they grab at any shiny object they feel at the time that will push their latest lies.

The Fog idiots are players like in the old Saturday night skits of two guys telling lies to each other over and over and who can tell the biggest whoppers.

Yeah yeah, that's the ticket!

347 posted on 08/12/2013 2:01:23 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: BigGuy22

The xerox experiment wasn’t done by Dr. Conspiracy but rather a fogbow poster that goes by ‘NBC’ and a sidekick.


348 posted on 08/12/2013 2:05:44 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Ah, thanks.

But the question is still relevant — is anyone here in a position to ask John Woodman what he thinks of the more recent work?


349 posted on 08/12/2013 2:07:13 PM PDT by BigGuy22
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter; Red Steel

I wonder (but wondering sure doesn’t keep me awake at night) whether the obotorrhoids really think their lord’s b.c. is real, or they know it isn’t but don’t care, since leftists never care about truth or the rule of law.

One is Stupid and Evil, and the other is Evil and Stupid, so it doesn’t really matter which way they think. I do have a sort of idle curiosity about it, though. If they really think the document is authentic (what document? I mean the printout of the forged creation), then they are monumentally stupid and should be on a pedastal, showing the world how being Evil makes people Stupid.


350 posted on 08/12/2013 2:07:42 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

They can track the IPs. If enough posters complain about the Obots, they should take a look at them.


351 posted on 08/12/2013 2:25:14 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

“Now since professional forensic handwriting and computer-document expert Reed Hayes independent 40 page report was done with evidence proving the document is a 100% forgery, they have now come up with this experiment claiming to be the holy grail that proves the document authentic.”

We don’t know what is in the Hayes report! We have no idea whether Hayes affirmed the claims of Zullo’s compression and pdf experts or even whether Hayes claimed competence to assess pdf files. Hayes opinion that the LFBC was fabricated could have been made relying on evidence that he saw having nothing to do with scanning compression and moving Onaka signature blocks or replicated items.

Zullo is keeping a lot of his investigation secret and from what I can guess, lots of it has to do with the information ON the LFBC, not when the BC was assembled on a computer.

NBC’s claims could be 100% true and Zullo’s claims that the LFBC 100% forged could ALSO be true...but for reasons other than pdf generation anomalies!


352 posted on 08/12/2013 2:56:46 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp

“... along with posting the resulting “replicated” pdf.”

And that replicated adobe file is structurally different from what was posted at the WH website. It took of 2 minutes to check. It is not the same at all.

Of course it is known that the WH version was last modified (created) by mac software.


353 posted on 08/12/2013 3:00:32 PM PDT by bluecat6
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To: bluecat6

As I recall, Adobe Illustrator software for Apple/Mac.


354 posted on 08/12/2013 3:04:37 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: butterdezillion; ctdonath2
He would not, nor would he verify the birth facts submitted on the actual verification application. He was legally required to verify upon request any submitted claims that he could verify as true. He wouldn’t verify any of the facts or the genuineness of the White House image.

Not true.

In an official statement presented in court,Dr Onaka did confirm that the facts asserted by the CoLB that the White Housse published match what the original on file with the DoH contains:

As for scanners doing funny things to documents in the interest of compression and OCR, they do it now just as they did in the eighties, only now its subtler and more insidious. See #279 for a weird example involving equipment similar to what the White House used.

355 posted on 08/12/2013 3:08:42 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

So what if the claims match what is on a non-valid record? If the record was valid Onaka would have to verify that the claims were TRUE, and he never said anything about that. The MDEC lawyer knew he never would, which is why the lawyer was careful never to ask for a verification of the TRUE facts.


356 posted on 08/12/2013 3:15:25 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: bluecat6

“And that replicated adobe file is structurally different from what was posted at the WH website.”

If you please, could you be more specific? How is it structurally different?

As far as I am concerned, if NBC’s replication is readily reproducible by others and results in replicated blocks, letters and numbers and floating Onaka signature and date blocks, some of Zullo’s primary claims of evidence of forgery are blown. There is already independent evidence from Xerox that replication of items is a flaw of “normal” compression on this family of machines.

NBC has invited specific challenges to which she appears to be willing to respond to in detail, as far as I can see.


357 posted on 08/12/2013 3:18:43 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: cynwoody
"He wouldn’t verify any of the facts or the genuineness of the White House image.

Not true."
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Actually, I believe BZ is correct on that one.

What you said is also true -- "Dr Onaka did confirm that the facts asserted by the CoLB that the White Housse published match what the original on file with the DoH contains."

But BZ is pointing out that, while Onaka said that the information matches the official records, he did not actually say that the information was factually correct.

And I think that's right. Onaka is in no position to attest to what is factually correct in that he has no personal knowledge of the event. He relies on the fact that, under the Full Faith and Credit clause of the Constitution, what's in the official records is legally true unless proven otherwise.

I've been asking BZ to tell me what other sources Onaka is supposed to rely on in order to be able to be able to verify the factual truth of the data, sources more trustworthy than the official records of the State of Hawaii, but she hasn't come up with an answer so far.
358 posted on 08/12/2013 3:24:26 PM PDT by BigGuy22
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To: bluecat6

“Of course it is known that the WH version was last modified (created) by mac software.”

The WH pdf being opened in Preview on a Mac, then modified and saved to a pdf does not PROVE that it was created on that Mac, if I understand correctly. I don’t believe that Zullo’s team is claiming that it was created on the last Mac that opened it and saved it.

IIRC when I opened the properties on NBC’s replicated pdf it showed that the pdf was created by a Xerox Work Center and modified by Preview on a MAC.


359 posted on 08/12/2013 3:27:31 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: bluecat6

“Obama Birth Certificate Faked In Adobe Illustrator - Official Proof”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY&feature=youtu.be

It’s highly unlikely the Xerox 7655 software recreated all the anomalies that the latest OBot claims. And if so, it is the most inefficient and convoluted Xerox software ever to be found. The Obama FogNuts are a brazen lot and they can be since there are no real consequences for their incessant lying.

Competent scanners make a flat copy, then saving it in the document PDF preservation software that should also be flat.


360 posted on 08/12/2013 3:29:25 PM PDT by Red Steel
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