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Either Through War Or Financial Collapse
SHTF Plan ^ | 7/29/13 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 07/29/2013 8:42:34 PM PDT by Kartographer

Despite being ignored by his many colleagues in economic circles for his dire warnings ahead of the crash of 2008, Faber has been on the mark about how stock markets would behave, what governments would do, and the subsequent effects on the global populace.

To say that he expects a crash would be an understatement.

According to Faber, what’s coming down the pike will be much, much worse than any crash we’ve seen in our lifetimes, which is why he’s previously recommended high voltage electric perimeter fencing and attack dogs as investments, along with farms outside of high population areas and machine guns to defend them.

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To: Shadowstrike

Bows cost more than some rifles or shotguns. Survival bows can be made from branches, as shown on Dual Survival.

I’ve been asked about buying ammo and couldn’t answer. It’s recommended that one have a minimum of 1,000 rounds per gun. The question is how does one go about buying that much ammo - rifle first?, handgun first?, shotgun first?, or some combo of each.

And to the NSA trolls, FU.


21 posted on 07/30/2013 12:42:33 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Fai Mao

“They have a homogenous population, a good climate and enough room to grow enough food to support the population.”

And if you aren’t a member of that homogenous population, guess who the victim is going to be?


22 posted on 07/30/2013 2:16:25 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: Kartographer
high voltage electric perimeter fencing and attack dogs as investments, along with farms outside of high population areas and machine guns to defend them.

I am not impressed with that recommendation. In any serious collapse, electricity will be completely gone or at least intermittent. In any serious collapse, feeding multiple "attack dogs" may be a challenge. I would prefer a "plan" that is practical both in a civil society and if things go south.

23 posted on 07/30/2013 3:21:34 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Pollster1

There are already many many places in the world wherein people live in walled gated, razor wired, electrical fenced and armed guards is a way of life (South Africa, Mexico and Brazil are examples) and yet it’s not ‘Mad Max’ yet.


24 posted on 07/30/2013 3:50:21 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

I hear a “Mad Max” video game is being made


25 posted on 07/30/2013 3:52:59 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

Who will have time to play it, you’ll soon be to busy living it.


26 posted on 07/30/2013 4:10:12 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

true


27 posted on 07/30/2013 4:11:50 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

I’m glad I live in the “woods” (a forest actually) and the cave dwellers (city people) would initially have difficulty locating me. The need for high walls and steel fences are replaced by thousands of trees, rivers, swamps and lakes.

When/if the need arises, I am prepared to defend my wife and myself to the fullest extent if need be. We grow much of our own foor and could also live off the land for a long time.

We have all the heat and water we need with the exception of an unlimited supply of gasoline and natural gas to operate our well pumps and generator(s).

For now, we are prepared.


28 posted on 07/30/2013 4:47:35 AM PDT by DaveA37 (I'm for SMALLER , HONEST government)
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To: Progov

Correction......”We grow much of our own food”


29 posted on 07/30/2013 4:48:59 AM PDT by DaveA37 (I'm for SMALLER , HONEST government)
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To: Shadowstrike

So do blow darts, bats, axes, etc.


30 posted on 07/30/2013 5:06:48 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: Fai Mao

If everyone rushed there, those would tip over.


31 posted on 07/30/2013 5:07:39 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: Kartographer
I'm learning how to harvest seeds from our garden and grow them. Need to learn this now. I'm making a project of it. We have a good plan to provide food for our group which includes trapping and raising rabbits.

As for defense and security, that's classified. ANY encroachment will be met with lethal force. No questions asked. No hesitation.

32 posted on 07/30/2013 5:08:00 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (Live each day as if it's your last. It might be.)
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To: Patriot Babe
I would like to see that here but there are regulation on fence height which sucks.

If you don't like the regulations now, then you're really not going to like them when it HTF. Regulations are exactly why you need to get out now while the getting is good.

33 posted on 07/30/2013 5:10:20 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: EternalHope

>> Since even .22 ammo is now too expensive to practice with <<

You don’t have to shoot a lot, but you have to shoot often.

I shoot 30 rounds a week with my .45acp, 10 rounds per session, 3 times a week. I get consistent 3-4 inch groups at 45 feet. I’m no professional, but I won’t miss if it comes down to it.


34 posted on 07/30/2013 5:13:01 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (Live each day as if it's your last. It might be.)
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To: NTHockey

>> The question is how does one go about buying that much ammo <<

I’ve been buying a box a week for over 2 years now. It adds up.

I now have a private supplier so I don’t even bother looking in stores now.


35 posted on 07/30/2013 5:16:36 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (Live each day as if it's your last. It might be.)
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To: bgill

36 posted on 07/30/2013 6:52:14 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Pollster1
“I am not impressed with that recommendation. In any serious collapse, electricity will be completely gone or at least intermittent. I would prefer a “plan” that is practical both in a civil society and if things go south.”

I have a practical plan to the best of my ability. Beyond my house, I live in the most conservative county in Texas. Around and in my house, if power goes out, I'll have battery power forever. I have battery fed security systems at the front and back of my house. I'll know if someone is there. I have a small footprint - no large house that would be a temptation for zombies.

I live in a small gated group of townhomes, but if power goes out, that gate will be open. We have men in here who are ex-military, but due to the majority of people in here having no preps and most being older, I don't know if they will stay here. I think they will go to family elsewhere as they tend to do if a hurricane comes through.

It's hard to judge what others may do so I have to do my own thing. I've decided my house and small back garden, is my “country” and I'm it's President for Life. (I loved the idea Idi Amen (sp) those years ago made himself “President for Life”. Was that Uganda?)

In my country (house/garden) where I'm President for Life, I control entry into my country. I profile, am not politically correct, and passport or not, no one enters my country unless he/she has approval from me, the President for Life.

37 posted on 07/30/2013 8:04:03 AM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Kartographer

I’m currently studying a book called “Breed Your Own Vegetable Varieties” by Carol Deppe. I highly recommend it! Even if you have no interest in creating new vegetable varieties, the information will help you maintain the varieties you have.

For instance, did you know that if you save seed from only one broccoli plant every year, within 2 or 3 years you won’t have any at all? Broccoli is among the plants most vulnerable to inbreeding depression, so it’s best to save seed from as many plants as possible (book recommends a minimum of 20) to keep yours from dying out. Same with corn and sunflowers, but not peas or tomatoes.

Good info, especially when the time comes and you can’t buy new seed.


38 posted on 07/30/2013 8:56:48 AM PDT by Ellendra ("Laws were most numerous when the Commonwealth was most corrupt." -Tacitus)
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To: Pollster1

Attack geese?


39 posted on 07/30/2013 9:00:29 AM PDT by Ellendra ("Laws were most numerous when the Commonwealth was most corrupt." -Tacitus)
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To: Shadowstrike
any metal fence can be made “electric”

Jumper cables and car battery....

And how, exactly, does one do that with 12 volts from the car battery?

40 posted on 07/30/2013 9:21:05 AM PDT by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got eight? NRA Life Member])
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