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Zimmerman Trial Update: Fulton Falsifies, Medical Examiner Worthless, Judge Nelson Chickens Out
ClashDaily.com ^ | 7/5/13 | Donald Joy

Posted on 07/05/2013 7:16:21 PM PDT by IChing

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To: Frank_2001

Well, I’m of the opinion that one should be VERY nice to the Dogter of one’s dog. They may be the best source of personal medical opinions/treatment in the near future.


61 posted on 07/05/2013 9:40:06 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: RIghtwardHo
Well, counselor, you might want to have a look at the case law, specifically Smalis v. Pennsylvania, 476 U.S. 140 (1986) in which the SCOTUS ruled that if the trial judge grants a motion for directed verdict for lack of evidence, there can be no further proceedings or appeal by the People:

"The Double Jeopardy Clause bars a postacquittal appeal by the prosecution not only when it might result in a second trial, but also if reversal would translate into “further proceedings of some sort”

White's opinion which overturned a ruling by the PA Supreme Court, was on behalf of a UNANIMOUS Supreme Court. http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/476/140/

I await your rebuttal.

62 posted on 07/05/2013 9:40:38 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Separated by a common language.)
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To: entropy12

There is no way he could scream loudly again and again.

I shoulda been a lawyer!

Apparently, you coulda been at least a medical examiner for the State of Florida.

63 posted on 07/05/2013 9:42:10 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Separated by a common language.)
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To: Frank_2001
We will have MANY more Dr Bao’s and Rao’s practicing in the New USSA in the coming years, “thanks” to Obamacare. If you need it, get your surgery now rather than later! /s;)

You say sarcasm but I think you might be right. I had my knee cartilage removed 20 years ago and know I will need a fake one, but have put it off until I am older so I might get by without replacing the fake one from wear. Lately I have been thinking more and more about getting it done before this mess falls on us all.

64 posted on 07/05/2013 9:42:52 PM PDT by eartrumpet
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To: entropy12

Plus, it went between the ribs apparently without breaking them. Any pain would probably have been similar to a heart attack...with rapid loss of consciousness.


65 posted on 07/05/2013 9:43:04 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Ray76

The medical examiner also said all the blood loss was collected inside body cavity, nothing outside.

That is exactly what would happen if a huge hole is made in the heart. There is zero blood pressure left to pump blood out of entry wound. All the blood just drained out of the heart and stayed inside the body cavity.


66 posted on 07/05/2013 9:43:05 PM PDT by entropy12 (Even tho Obama is now a lame duck, with 2014 House majority, he will be a dangerously socialist!)
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To: eartrumpet; Frank_2001

There are tens of thousands of these foreign doctors manning government jobs such as medical examiner and pathologists.

After Obamacare goes into full gear on Jan 2014, not many hi-IQ Americans will want to pursue medical field. We will soon look like UK healthcare.


67 posted on 07/05/2013 9:52:31 PM PDT by entropy12 (Even tho Obama is now a lame duck, with 2014 House majority, he will be a dangerously socialist!)
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To: IChing

Very well done.

There was another exchange about the TCH in the bloodstream. “So your opinion is that it affected Mr. Martin none at all or some?” “No, that’s YOUR opinion. My opinion is my opinion. My opinion is what I say. It is that it affected him not at all or some.”

Then the “Judge” who based her entire granting of the inadmissability of the pot use evidence on this clown saying it didn’t effect behavior AT ALL for TM still won’t allow the jury to hear anything about it.

It certainly explained George saying, “This guy is acting strangely. I think he’s on drugs or something.”

So instead of knowing that TM was using pot, which may have explained a strange walk or odd behavior or perhaps his poor reasoning skills (paranoia, aggression), the jury hears nothing about it.

Every chance to screw over the defense this Judge has taken.

NEver seen something so obvious a show trial. Was self defense from day one and obvious to anyone using any level of rational thinking.


68 posted on 07/05/2013 10:59:56 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Ray76

Another post elsewhere by a medical professional said it was absolute b.s. TM couldn’t move after the shooting, unless his spinal cord was severed, which it wasn’t.

I honestly don’t understand the State’s position on what took place.

1. TM is on the ground being beaten by GZ.

2. TM cries out “help help”

3. Any eye witness who saw GZ being beaten is lying

4. In the midst of ‘ground and pounding’ GZ takes out his gun and shoots TM in the chest.

He then (and I’ve seen morons online suggest this) hits himself and causes the injuries.... knowing that there are no camera phones or witnesses observing.

The ‘black common folk’ position is: George Zimmerman was told not to follow. He did. Was his fault after that and he ‘deserve to get his ass beat.’

TM’s buddy, Jabba, said TM knew he was being followed and she was worried TM would be raped by this guy (her testimony). So, in fear for his anal rapage, TM confronted GZ and then GZ punched TM (causing no bruises or injuries at all).

I mean,

can ANYONE explain to me what the State’s position is?


69 posted on 07/05/2013 11:07:16 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Paladin2

Does he live in a Hut in Kenya like Obama’s Half Brother?


70 posted on 07/05/2013 11:33:34 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (They can follow the Communist, I'll follow the Constitution...)
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To: All

Am stuck, like a moth to the flame, fascinated, but sensing that this trial is a harbinger for the demise of the judicial system we once thought we could trust.

Such a fragile thing, really. It only works as long as we agree and support, as a community, the rules of “equal under the law”, and that justice should be blind.

What happens when we are no longer equals, and some are given, like Rachel Jeantel, a pass that the rest of us do not get.

What happens when a “birth mother” who pretty much left her 3 year old toddler to another woman’s care for 15 years, gets a pass on negligence by the prosecution, for what appears to be “political” reasons.

What about a father who was into the Crips, or at a minimum,”wannbe Crip like behavior “- who then was tolerated by a bunch of foolish, but willing women who were tolerant of or who put up with his disreputable, faithless behavior.

But none of this seems to matter in the collective hive mind of the ignorant low information populace, in the search for truth.

I feel pity for Trayvon, because he had such lousy role parental role models.

Even in his death, the one woman who seemed to love him, who cared for him from 3yrs to 16yrs, (now passed over for a new “honey-pot”) has been “blacked out” (pun intended), of the story, and ignored by the MSM, as if she never existed, and didn’t matter to the betrayal of Trayvon by the adults in his young life.

Before passing judgement, we must remember that children from intact families also ended up refusing/ignoring parental advice, resulting in equally troubled lives. And, some children who came from mixed up/multiple coupling/uncoupling/poor role model parents managed to make decent lives for themselves.

There is so much to learn from this trial, but none of us seem to grasp the whole of it’s meaning.

Each of the various factions in our so called USA “melting pot” see/feel a different part of the elephant, then become so attached to their own “reality”. They are ready to riot, like toddlers, because their vision of what they want in the candy aisle of the mega-mart might not be confirmed by the whole.

Personally, I agree with George Zimmerman, that this was an act of God, so He could, in His own way, hold up a mirror - to give us a chance to see ourselves, the mess we are in, as a country, as a culture, and as a society.

There are no easy answers/solutions, and my guess is that this is the beginning of the end. I feel so sad from everything I watched these past two weeks. My faith has been shattered, but maybe that is a good thing.

I now know not to look to “man/laws/governments” nor to trust any of these, but only in our Creator.

May His will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven. May we forgive those who trespass against us. May we be delivered from temptation, and from evil.

Rant off - it is getting way to late for me, and I am wandering into the metaphysical. Time to head for bed.


71 posted on 07/05/2013 11:36:50 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: Kickass Conservative

Maybe H0lder can provide some nuance here?


72 posted on 07/05/2013 11:37:18 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Uncle Chip

Trayvon = HELP ME (kill this creepy ass cracker)...


73 posted on 07/05/2013 11:40:50 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (They can follow the Communist, I'll follow the Constitution...)
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To: jy8z

Good Rebuttal!


74 posted on 07/06/2013 2:46:18 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: IChing; All

Did anyone else catch Mantei’s statement that use of a gun in self defense is in itself evidence of a depraved mind? My ears aren’t the best but I think I got it right.


75 posted on 07/06/2013 3:42:21 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: jacquej
Come on, you only need one on each hand, LOL.

I took a typing course in high school and got pretty good, now I know where the letters are but using all my fingers overloads what is left of my brain.

76 posted on 07/06/2013 3:46:25 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: IChing

And, inside his head, there’s a voice saying, “Trayvon wouldn’t be caught dead squealing like a girl”...


77 posted on 07/06/2013 4:31:20 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: UCANSEE2
That Judge Nelson , HE sure did.

Looks like Roy "Big Country" Nelson

78 posted on 07/06/2013 5:21:14 AM PDT by Go Gordon (Barack McGreevey Obama)
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To: IChing
The lesbian triplets...Deborah Nelson, Angela Corey, and Candy Crowley.
79 posted on 07/06/2013 7:32:29 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: montag813
In a just world, hell, even in an unjust one, it would be, or in other words, then, it would have been.

However, we are living in a new world, again, in other words, the now. And don' look for it to be overturned. As far as appealing goes, Zimmerman will have to do his own appeal from the prison law library because the State of Florida will make sure he has no money to hire a lawyer. The lynch Zimmerman mob did their job thoroughly and well.

80 posted on 07/06/2013 7:49:01 AM PDT by sport
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