Posted on 07/04/2013 6:41:13 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
Now that even Obama recognizes that ObamaCare has become a train wreck, he has delayed enforcement (illegally, btw) by one year, safely past the 2014 elections, that businesses must provide health insurance to their employees. So who to blame for the ObamaCare train wreck? The Democrats who voted for the bill without even reading it? Of course not. The DUmmies actually blame the Republicans, none of whom voted for the train wreck, as you can see in this THREAD, "HUGE: White House Delaying Key Obamacare Provision For A Year." So let us now watch the DUmmies engage in the blame game in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, noting that not one Senator read the entire Undocumented Democrats bill before voting for it, is in the [barackets]:
Source: Business Insider
The White House will delay until 2015 the enforcement of a requirement for businesses to provide workers health insurance under the Affordable Care Act, the Treasury Department said today.
[Is this even LEGAL. The law itself clearly states 2014 as when businesses must provide health insurance. Can the executive branch unilaterally decide not to enforce a law passed by Congress?]
More detail is set to come later in the week.
The mandate would require most businesses with 50 or more full-time employees to provide health insurance meeting certain minimum criteria — or pay a penalty of $2,000 per worker.
The purpose of the employer mandate is to discourage employers from dropping coverage and leaving employees to buy subsidized insurance in the Obamacare exchanges at greater taxpayer expense.
[But that is now what it seems that Obama wants. Subsidized insurance at greater taxpayer expense aka single payer aka SOCIALIZED medicine.]
In the absence of a mandate next year, Treasury says it will "strongly encourage employers to maintain or expand health coverage."
[But in reality they really want "single payer." We will now watch the DUmmies blame Republicans for the ObamaCare train wreck.....]
Jeez Who Wrote The White House A Check to make this happen. I know that there have been employers from major corporations that have been laying off employees currently because of this mandate so what now will the corps hire them back.....likely not. This is not a victory for employees.
[Yup. Evil corporatist Republicans are to blame for the ObamaCare train wreck.]
This smells like the employees are going to receive a turd dumped on them when this is over.
[It's a huge turd sandwich and we're all gonna have to take a bite.]
Shit. If the ACA doesn't get implemented, when are the big savings supposed to materialize? I'm scared the whole thing is going to be undone and we'll be left with nothing to provide healthcare. Help.
[All aboard the ObamaCare train wreck!]
IMO this Republican Health Insurance Bill is as corrupt as most politicians.
[Yup! We all remember how a minority of Republicans in Congress FORCED the Democrats to vote for this bill and how an intimidated Obama signed the bill into law in fear of those Republicans.]
How many republicans voted for this "Republican Health Insurance Bill"? The number was pretty close to 0 was it not? There were certainly more more members of the Progressive Caucus voting for it than republicans.
[LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!! Please stop pointing out uncomfortable truths!]
Of course they didn't vote for it once it had President Obama's name on it. But that doesn't change the fact that most of it was a Republican proposal in the first place designed to make an end run around single payer.
[Wascally Weepublicans were weesponsible.]
It does not have Obama's name on, other than the derisive nickname, Obamacare, they gave it. If the ACA had passed with a lot of republican votes and a few votes from conservative Democrats, your criticism would be valid. That is not what happened.
[Stop throwing cold water upon our fantasies!]
Whatever it is, it isn't Republican GOP pretty much was thumbs down on it then and has kept running against it ever since. This was supposed to be the great Democratic triumph.
[Democrats and Obama OWN the ObamaCare train wreck.]
But politically, the Democratic party owns this one. No way around it. We ought to try hard to make it work.
[Hmmm... If you fiddle a bit with this mandate, delay enforcement of that mandate, and tinker a bit with the death panels....it just might not become a train wreck.]
"this republiccan health insurance"...this is the funniest thing I have read in months here. WE OWN IT. Democrats OWN this.
[ObamaCare is OURS, OURS, OURS!!! WE OWN IT! IT IS OUR TRAIN WRECK!!!]
I just put my Obama magnets in my recycle bin. Enough is enough.
[Would you like me to send you an Obama bumper sticker scraper?]
Sheesh. My work hours were cut to no more than 29 per week -- because of the requirement and now it goes away. Will I get my hours back? I seriously doubt it.
[Sorry. No putting the ObamaCare genie back in the bottle.]
This is just a total eff-up.
[And this DUmmie WINS a Kewpie Doll for having a brief moment of mental clarity!]
I have no faith left.
[Good news! Atheists are now embracing the multiverse theory of an almost infinite number of parallel universes so perhaps your faith could be restored in that Alternate Universe in which Al Gore became president in 2000.]
I have no faith left.
[BINGO!]
But, but, but... I thought Obama could not do much with just a stroke of his pen? I would think these dates would have been part of the law. Are they subject to interpretation? Then why doesn't this admin "interpret" other enforcement of laws which Progressives care about? Feels like a shell game right now.
[The dates ARE part of the law which is why the delay might be subject to legal challenge.]
Thankfully the treasury will "strongly encourage employers to maintain or expand health coverage." What a f*cking joke. What a clusterf*ck.
[What a train wreck.]
Brilliant!! The President's three-dimensional chessplaying skills are getting even better!!! A novice might think that we've been shafted once again. But that's the beauty of it! That's exactly what we're supposed to think! A standing O for President O!
[Posted a DUmmie from the Fifth Dimension.]
If they can do this...what's to stop a future Republican administration from cancelling enforcement of this or other aspects of the law with a simple declaration from the Treasury Department? I mean, the employer mandate is written in the law. I didn't know it could be changed or postponed by executive decision.
[How about an executive order to grant ObamaCare waivers to everyone?]
But I thought the thundering success of the 2014 implementation was going to HELP Dems! now he's running away from it at the 11th hour.
[A few weeks ago, the Regime was encouraging Democrats to EMBRACE ObamaCare. Ooops!]
another lie another broken promise Obama never fails to disappoint.
[Hey, give the Lightworker points for consistency.]
Got a letter Saturday that informed me I'll be paying almost $100 more a month beginning in August. I'm looking into other options, but am not optimistic. This could not have come at a worse time for me. I'm sure a part of this increase is directly because of the ACA.
[Beause of UFA...UNAFFORDABLE Care Act.]
I hope that legal action can be taken to force the administration to enforce the law. This is so nonsensical it is mind-boggling. It reeks of opportunism and DECEIT.
[A DUmmie sings the Obama Regime theme tune.]
Personally, I think this Repug-originated system borders on extortion (because of the Repug conceived mandate) for average middle class/middle age peeps like me.
[Good. We're back to blaming Republicans for the train wreck.]
So the question is, where is the "affordable"...in the Affordable Care Act? Or should they just rename it the Unaffordable, not-so-much Care Act?
[Sorry, you have to send me a royalty payment since I thought of "Unaffordable Care Act" first.]
Monthly Premiums for Obamacare. Good God...321 dollars a month once this is implemented for me. Are they insane????? How in the heck am I suppose to afford that? I pay around 100 dollars a month today. I thought this was going to help us??????
[We had to pass ObamaCare in order to find out what's in it. Enjoy!]
If you are poor, you had better bend over and grab your ankles, it is going to be a rough ride in the very near future.
[Ben Burch is right behind you.]
PING!
TOP TEN!
Nope. That's due to Hussein's recession. The folks laying off people are the tiny businesses that the big box stores want to wipe out. Hussein should take credit. (Will low-information ass-clowns be with us forever?)
*eyesrolling at the DUmmies*
PING
-— IMO this Republican Health Insurance Bill is as corrupt as most politicians. ——
This should prove to conservatives that liberals can’t learn, even from experience.
I did enjoy the last paragraph, where the Obama-worshipper was complaining about his healthcare payments rising from $100/mo. To $321/mo.
Imagine paying $100/mo. That’s $1200/year. The affrontery!
What idiots.
I've been astounded all along, that even Democrat voters could believe that all currently uninsured, including tens of millions of illegal aliens, plus removal of any restriction upon coverage of preexisting conditions could be implemented at a cost savings. There are no efficiencies, only more expense. Of course premiums will rise.
I still have an accountant, really just a vestige of having been a business owner. I kept my sub-chapter S-corp, hoping for better days that haven't come in five years. That accountant has warned me to prepare myself for health insurance premiums to double, and I'm pushing fifty. It'll be worse than that for younger individuals I'm told. That would be the heaviest supporter demographic for Obama outside African-Americans. That would be the group with unemployment reaching thirty percent.
I guess they really are that stupid. Wait'll they get a load of the 16,000 new IRS agents, armed IRS agents, being hired as the enforcement arm of this fiasco. There is no avoiding the mandate, you will be insured and you will report it to the IRS, or you will be fined, with the fine rising over each successive year in case you get the idea that it's cheaper just to pay that fine.
For any DU'ers reading this, and we all know you do, especially DUmmie FUnnies, the above is the truth. We fought it tooth and nail, you had naive stars in your eyes and were all for it. You made this bed, now lie in it.
Obama’s own are delaying it so that they can win the 2014 House and Senate races.
Too much at stake if people actually have to pay out the nose right now and toss the bums out next year...
Is everyone brain dead? Does everyone not understand that this ONLY means no fines for employers with 50+ employees who don’t offer *affordable* (compliant with government mandate)for one lousy year? The individual mandates still apply. Hours have already been cut. 2014 tax bills will still list any employer-provided portion of a health insurance policy. In 2015, that amount will become taxable to the individual.
Delaying one portion that simply delays fines on the largest employers and nothing more for 12 months doesn’t negate the fact that those fines can kick in again in 2015. People have the brains to run a business requiring 50+ employees and they don’t have the brains to exercise precautions against those delayed fines kicking in after the election? They will campaign for, donate to & vote for the donks in return for a short delay? Right.
Just how does this qualify as brilliant political strategy again? It just gives employers another year to prepare for the reaming.
The Republicans need to fight them at their own game.
What Democrat Congressman would NOT vote to delay the individual mandate, given the Administration has delayed the employer mandate?
It’s hard to be the party of little guy, if you’ve just voted penalize him and while big, bad business gets a pass.
And it’s also hard to claim to support a bill if you vote against its other major cornerstone.
Let that vote be front page news for the 2014 midterms
I know you have a “one Kewpie Doll per thread” rule, Peej, but you could have gotten a bulk shipment in and handed them out on this one.
Do you think those 16,000 armed agents are going to go after the poverty case that can't afford 300 bucks a month, or do you think they'd go after us?
Some radio show ran a montage of Obama saying over and over: "If you like your current insurance, you can keep it. Nothing will change"
"If you like your current doctor, you can keep him. Nothing will change".
The only thing that will change is that we'll add thirty million new non-paying members, add a new bureaucratic level to staff the increase workload and 16,000 IRS agents to help collect the money we will not need because we named this the Affordable Care Act.
I though even high school dropouts could noodle that the math didn't work.
I was wrong.
They could put it off for a decade and it will still be a disaster. Even if they
postpone it the public must pay while receiving nothing in return.
Hey Jackboots, you can read the bill now that it's been passed. You don't need Pelosi' permission.
Hey DUmmies, We chose liberty, you chose tyranny. This is tyranny so lay back and enjoy it.
“Does everyone not understand that this ONLY means no fines for employers with 50+ employees who don’t offer *affordable* (compliant with government mandate)for one lousy year? The individual mandates still apply.”
Which means that these “large” employers have a one year window to dump employer provided health care without being fined. If I were an employer, I’d dump health insurance on day 1! Then the individuals will be responsible to comply on their own and will have to get into an exchange before the next year rolls around.
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