Posted on 06/30/2013 5:46:54 PM PDT by servo1969
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu8US6YAcoY
Sharing with you a personal experience that I had with law enforcement while concealed carry. I strongly believe that this topic should be mandatory discussion for every concealed carry class. This overview of the "stop" and interaction with the officer should give you some guidelines and protocol to follow when this happens to you. It could also be of benefit to law enforcement personnel as well.
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Yes, it’s always your right to remain silent.
However...I find the ‘why are you here’ question asked in the video to be highly disturbing.I think the answer given is the right answer, but I would agree that my initial response would be ‘none of your damned business.’
went through a dui checkpoint in lynn massachusestts, manned by mass state police. state trooper asked me “where are you coming from?”. amazing. in mass they are not allowed (per order of deval Patrick I would imagine), to ask for your license at a dui like they used to do so as not to be a defacto illegal alien stop, but they can ask a law abiding citizen where are you coming from.
Russia is now the old us, and we are the old ussr.
I guess john lennon turned out to be right.
That depends on the state, and is something to be aware of if you are traveling through multiple states. (Apart of course from the other issues related to multi-state CCW, like license reciprocity.)
In some states there is even a contradiction between state law and federal law regarding travel with a firearm stored in the car. Read up on the law before travel, and seek competent legal counsel for the complicated cases. Oh, and avoid New York, New Jersey, Connecticut...
In Ohio one, by law, must advise the LEO, as soon as you are approached, that you have a CCW and are armed. If you are driving a car titled to you, the LEO knows before stopping you that you have an CCW In the 5-7 times I have been pulled over and so advised the LEO, not a one of them has said a word about my being armed.
The question about why he was passing through is a very old police question, especially in rural areas. “We don’t get many strangers in these parts.” In their experience, the answer lets them know whether you are up to no good or not with a single question.
There have been many times and places in US history when an area would just get overrun with transient scoundrels, and if there is just one or a few lawmen, they prefer to nip such problems in the bud.
While lots of movies and TV shows depict someone loudly asserting their rights with police officers, that is the big city way. In rural areas, police expect good manners, and usually respond in kind.
I need to move where you live.. The cops in my area (rural) do not have good manners. I was stopped close to home once- The Deputy said “I stopped you because I thought you were going to run.” And another Deputy stopped me close to home and asked: “How long have you lived around here?” As if that meant anything. I told him “I moved here before you were born.”
that is not correct. many choose to as a courtesy.
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A lot of that is from the 1970s. Because of a small number of police assassinations in the US by leftist radicals, the federal government encouraged police departments all over the US to change their philosophy from “Old West” to “SWAT”.
This meant frequently brandishing guns; an aggressive approach to “taking control and dominance of the situation”, even when it was not a control or dominance situation; that police should be aloof from the public, trained at the state level with federal guidelines, and interchangeable, so that an officer wouldn’t necessarily work in his hometown, but someplace where he didn’t know anyone.
The end result was a big upturn in police aggression and hostility to the public, to not distinguish between social classes in how they treat people, and a lot of police getting killed with their own weapon because they brandished it when they shouldn’t have.
The biggest mitigation to this disaster was the Taser, because it gave police some way of dealing with situations in a less lethal manner. But socially, the police lost a huge amount of public appreciation with the changeover.
Other disasters are everything from abuse of steroids, which is so bad the FBI and DEA frequently send advisories to police departments all over the US; to the unofficial policy of killing dogs, as much to dominate and control and punish as for stopping a real threat. There is also a decided lack of common sense, such as arresting school children for some minor disciplinary problem, at the behest of the school.
Great video!
On a side note...I am one who does a “pre-flight” inspection on my car each week. The auto in the video was I believe a Jeep Cherokee or Jeep Grand Cherokee. The tail lights have a defect which causes the bulbs to become hot and burn out quickly.
I asked three different cops and got three different answers.
One said you don’t have to tell unless he asked.
the other said tell him as soon as he walks up to your door
the last one said only if he asked you to get out of the car.
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