Posted on 06/30/2013 5:46:54 PM PDT by servo1969
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu8US6YAcoY
Sharing with you a personal experience that I had with law enforcement while concealed carry. I strongly believe that this topic should be mandatory discussion for every concealed carry class. This overview of the "stop" and interaction with the officer should give you some guidelines and protocol to follow when this happens to you. It could also be of benefit to law enforcement personnel as well.
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I was pulled over on the Ohio turnpike recently. I left my hands on the wheel and told the trooper immediately that I had a permit and a gun. He asked me where it was and I told him on my right hip. He thanked me for informing him and then proceeded to give me a speeding ticket for 10 mph over. heck of a way to start a vacation.
Almost all cops are degenerate sadists. They are tax collectors with guns. When you can get away from them without getting paying paper or tazed, clubbed, cuffed, or shot, you are doing well. Stay away from them. Don’t trust them. Don’t oblige them. Be respectful, and say/do what is necessary to get on your way.
GREAT video quality and your sound is FANTASTIC..!!!
Was just pulled over myself. I informed the officer right away that I had a permit and was carrying. He was fine, just asked me to keep my hands where he could see them. All was fine, no citation. He did ask if I was a lawyer because I handled it all well/clearly.
However...I find the ‘why are you here’ question asked in the video to be highly disturbing.I think the answer given is the right answer, but I would agree that my initial response would be ‘none of your damned business.’
How the cops handle CCW probably depends on the area, urban, suburban, rural etc. I live in a mostly suburban with some “rural” parts. Around here most cops are respectful, however I would image in a more urban area, they have grouped a legal CCW with a criminal thug.
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I think that last question illustrates the point that many people have a stigma about guns: they see a firearm as a tool of violence and destruction, not of freedom and liberation. Although I have no idea why she would ask the bombshell question, I suspect it was because she felt that a man with a firearm, although legal with all the registration, was a threat. However, the fact that she trusted you when you told her there wasn’t a round in the chamber suggests she believes you are an honest person.
Ultimately, this shows how she perceived the gun as a threat more than you. But that’s just what I thought.
"300mag83 29 minutes ago
I am a law enforcement officer from Mo. I stop ccw holders all the time. I can say they are normally the most respectful people I stop I don't freak out on them I don't even ask to see the gun because common sense tells me if they planned on shooting me they wouldn't have told me they have a gun. I am super pro 2nd so we normally have a gun talk or 2 but that's it. and I always give warnings on minor traffic offenses. she may have been new our job can be scary at times. it is a weird question "
The obvious answer to an obvious question in bold.
Ping worthy video for the prepper list
Thanks Servo, with the Zimmerman verdict coming up, it’s going to be more important then ever for folks to get themselves armed and WELL-TRAINED.
She was baiting him. Never take the bait.
Good job.
Here is how I expect to handle this if it happens to me:
ME: Good afternoon, Officer.
OFFICER: May I see your license and registration, please?
ME: Of course. Before we proceed, I want to inform you that I am l licensed to carry a concealed weapon, and I have one holstered on me right now. How do you wish to proceed?
I am not one that thinks all police are our enemy. Most of them are simply doing their job. I believe that when the police stop you, there is no reason to be belligerent and rude to them, and to treat them with courtesy and respect as I would like them to treat me.
I believe in speaking respectfully as in “Yes sir”, “No sir” and “Officer...” because that is the way I was brought up.
Like you, I would not have pressed the issue with the officer if asked, but that is simply a matter of practicality with me. I might well call the station or write a polite letter after the fact, but I would remain civil.
You did well.
Nice video...very well done.
I was stopped driving out of a small Idaho town and a local police officer pulled me over for “ramping up from 35 to 46 about 100 feet before the speed limit sign for 45.
I was alone and he approached my pickup from the passenger side and told me what I had done and I freely agreed that indeed I had beat the increased speed sign. He told me he was giving me a warning.
I gave him my license, registration and proof of insurance and he walked back to his patrol car. I could see him talking on his radio in the rear view mirror.
He came back up to the passenger window and said, “I notice you are a concealed carry permit holder” and asked me if I had a firearm in my vehicle, which I said yes.
He said, “I would consider it a courtesy if you told me that when I first approached your vehicle”.
I told him that I had CCW permits in 3-states and had taken advanced handgun combat courses, all taught by either active or ex-LEOs and all had said to shut up if stopped by the police...don’t volunteer anything. He said that may be so, but he would consider it a courtesy to be informed.
I thanked him and went my merry way and have asked several LEO pals what they thought of the encounter and everyone I asked said I should have told him to screw off it was none of his business.
On the extremely rare occassion when I have direct contact with law enforcement I am unbelievably polite and cooperative, so telling him to pound sand never entered my mind.
I did mention to the officer that he should consider that CCW permit holders as a group have the lowest crime rate in the nation and we were not the bad guys. He agreed, but again gave me the courtesy thing.
Alls well that ends well, I guess.
I always thought it was the law to tell them right away.
Good video though. An interesting look at a topic we don't often get to see.
Nice video work. As to the cop asking why you were in her hood, I would have told her, “I heard the female cops in this town were hot, so I thought I’d check it out for myself. ‘Scuse me while I pop that brake light back in.”
Like most things involving firearms regulations, it varies by the state.
Apparently not if he asked me as a "courtesy", the implication being it was not required. Plus, a retired state highway patrol trooper, a hometown city police officer and the county sheriff told me I didn't have to tell him anything. At least in Idaho that seems to be the case.
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