Posted on 06/28/2013 6:32:50 AM PDT by marktwain
Afraid of an armed populace, especially one where the Sheriffs do not control who gets a gun. If the sheriffs get to approve permits, their friends get the permits, the “undesirables” do not. It’s all about power.
I've had CCW (or Firearms Licenses) from Georgia for 15 years. The permit negating a NICS check is in force here and you can buy a gun with it and not have to undergo the check. You still have to fill out the Form 4473.
That said, there was one year here in Georgia a few years ago that this ATF privilege (ha) was revoked because Georgia did not recheck the eligibility of its CCW holders often enough during the 5 year period. Georgia revamped their periodic checks and the WAIVER it applied for to the ATF was reinstated.
...yep, LEOs of all stripes tend towards less guns in the hands of the populace kind of naturally. Plus, with these official organizations, the leadership and administrators of groups tend to be more liberal and bureaucratic by nature than the actual rank and file.
In Georgia, the Sheriffs office approves permits with the sole requirement being a clear NICS check.
Correction! The Probate Court approves and issues the permit based on a clear NICS report from the local constabulary....
“It’s not about losing revenue. Permits cost a measly five bucks.”
If I remember correctly, one permit gets you one handgun. 10 handguns= $50, and if 100 citizens bought one each= $500 that day. My opinion is that the $$ is an important consideration over the course of a year, especially for smaller Sheriff’s departments where a few hundred dollars is more significant. Most of the 100 Sheriff’s departments in NC would probably be smaller ones, and therefore, most of the Sheriff’s departments are against it.
“LEOs of all stripes tend towards less guns in the hands of the populace kind of naturally”
That is not true. Do you have any supporting data? The heads of agencies very rarely speak for their rank and file. Most agency heads are politicians and were not even street police officers for very long if at all. I cannot speak for LEO outside of my geographic area but down here they are overwhelmingly pro 2nd.
I think this damned article makes my point smartass.....
Don’t know that I was being a smart-ass. The quote is still incorrect.
my evidence, like yours, is anecdotal, and yet, you snpe about “supporting data.” And again, my supporting data starts with the very article that launched this thread.
quick Google search police unions and gun control. 80 million hits, MOST about how cops work against gun rights.
Do you need more?
My data was the 1500 guys I worked with for over 15 years. I cannot speak for NC or other states but I can for certain agencies where I live.
And on the other side is a defacto gun registry. Strikes me that both sides are wrong in this, but given the choice, I'd rather stick with the existing system, and do not fault the local sheriffs from wanting to continue it.
Apparently, this is the reason for the system in Michigan, also.
When I read the title “Why Are NC Sheriffs Working to Stop Pro-Gun Bill?”, my instant answer to the question was “because they are jack booted fascist thugs” then I read their reasoning and realized that they are jack booted fascist thugs.
“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” ~ Thomas Jefferson
Union officials and appointed police officials aren’t really cops.
Unfortunately, the North Carolina Sheriffs Association (NCSA) opposes the bill because of a single provision: the repeal of our pistol purchase permit system.
Entrusting our rights to law enforcement officers is an inherently bad idea. Take it from there.
but they are elected by “really” cops in many cases, and they do often reflect the views of their members - all of which misses one of my points - that police organizations often are anti gun right officially....their rank and file notwithstanding.
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