Team Arpaio: We Have Two 1961 Hawaiian Birth Certificates That List Negro Not African

Mike Zullo ^ | 6-20-2013

[Cold Case Posse Supporter]

Sheriff Arpaio's lead investigator Mike Zullo just concluded a new interview this afternoon at 3:30pm central time and revealed that he will get Congressional movement on Obama's fraudulent documents after their summer break. He also revealed that they have in possession two Hawaiian birth certificates from 1961 that reveal that the term 'Negro' was used for black babies instead of the term 'African'.

[autumnraine]

No, he is saying he has two other birth certificates of black people born in Hawaii in the 1960’s where the term “negro” is used as race, not “African” as is on Obama’s supposed certificate.

[Nero Germanicus]

If it was Ann Dunham’s decision to list her husband’s race as “African” with or without his concurrence, it makes no difference.
There are two data points on a birth certificate that have Article II, Section 1 constitutional relevance: date of birth and place of birth. The following is why even though the Obama birth vital record has been available since June 10, 2008 and a copy of the long form has been on the whitehouse.gov web site since April 27, 2011, all attempts to impeach the data have proven unsuccessful.

Every Certificate of Live Birth (digitized short form abstract) issued by the state of Hawaii carries the statement: “This copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding.” {Hawaii Revised Statutes 338-13b & 338-19}
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/prima+facie

Article IV/Section 1 of the US Constitution says that “Full Faith and Credit” will be given to the official public records of a state by every other state and by the federal government.
http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A4Sec1.html

Federal Rule of Evidence 902 states that official state records are considered to be self-authenticating evidence as exceptions to the hearsay rule and need no further authentification.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre/rule_902

Federal Rule of Evidence 1005 states that copies of public records can be used in court to prove content.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre/rule_1005

Put it all together and there’s a sealed and signed certified birth record that is prima facie evidence which gets full faith in credit, is self-authenticating and copies of the original can be used in court to prove content.

Since there has never been an official law enforcement agency or congressional investigation of Barack Obama’s birth record for forgery, fraud or document tampering, the four legal steps listed above have been (thus far) an insurmountable hurdle for challengers to the Obama presidency to overcome.

[bluecat6]

If you want to avoid being distracted we do know that something of substance happened in December 1971.

But no one want to look there.

Obama may have gotten his first ‘Kenya’ citizenship then, not in 1961. ‘Kenya’ was not even legally ‘Kenya’ until 1964.

[Yosemitest]

That's why I referenced the British National Archives in comment #57, that Hillary made the sudden trip to, to make the original record "suddenly disappear".

[Fred Nerks]

I think it might make a lot more sense to admit there’s a heck of a lot you do not know, instead of screaming in an attempt to drown others out.

If the kenyan and Anna did have a son in Hawaii, you’ll find his name listed on the public index for 1960-1964 and his father just might have insisted on being described as an AFRICAN. Being called a negro would have been totally offensive to a native from Kenya. His own father apparently spent two years in a prison compound with ‘freedom fighters’ (Mau Mau)

THEIR CRY WAS ‘UHURU’ FREEDOM! AFRICA FOR AFRICANS - OUT WITH THE WHITE MAN!

The man was also supremely arrogant. Comes time to classify the race of the offspring according to the race of the parents, the clerk sees AFRICAN and resorts to UNSTATED, which iirc, fits with the number 9.

What would that make the classification of race for their son? Depends if Anna was a white woman or not, I imagine.

So the little pencil numbers don’t mean a darn thing if the BC you’ve been shown used the document that belongs to another birth as a template.

[Ray76]

What “sealed and signed certified birth record”?

[bluecat6]

I found Rahm Emanual’s trip to Kenya in December 2008 - before the inauguration but after the election an interesting trip.

He and his family supposedly went on ‘safari’. So the Jewish family, who is very anti-gun in their views, just happened to taken a ‘safari’ in Kenya in 2008....uh huh...

As Fred Nerks points out. We know we the LFBC (and the COLB) are frauds. 100% frauds. The COLB was simpler to create but due to the arrogant display of both a a high resolution and high resolution actual digital photos it is easily shown to be a fraud. The LFBC - it has so many red flags they are almost impossible to list in total - man-made layers, identical letters, multiple physical sizes and on and on.

Obama may have had legal Kenya connections - without ever being born there or even setting foot in the country. And yes, due to this he may have had legal records in Kenya archives.

But born in Kenya by extending or embellishing the original ‘early family narrative’ with a trip to the supposed in-laws? It fails all logic of what is now known - that there was no happy family between 1961 and 1963. There was no known ongoing relationship between BHO senior and SADS - ever. So why in the world would SADS go to Kenya, or rather BEA at the time, to have a baby? We have known for some time that the Dreams narrative is a lie. And the birth in Kenya scenario would have be an extension of the fake Dreams narrative.

BHO, as a actual citizen of Kenya, had a role in the events of December 1971. That is when Barry may have formed a direct connection with what he propagated as his ‘home country’ from that point.

As pointed out earlier, he was telling people he was Indonesian royalty. But then later shifted to being Kenyan royalty. Clearly he could make up narratives that fit the situation. Yes, he claimed to be Kenyan before 2004. But he also claimed to be Indonesian royalty at one point. It sounds like its coming from the horse mouth. But if the horse is a perpetual liar what comes its mouth is not useable.

[Fred Nerks]

It seems to me that the only direct connection zero has to Kenya is the result of him having/using the same name as the child named on the divorce documents which apparently gave her custody on March 20, 1964...

...of Barack Hussein Obama 11.

Whose father insisted on being classified as AFRICAN and whose mother showed up in Seattle shortly after his birth.

For whom Mary babysat for Anna when her own daughter, who was born in July 1959, was 18 months of age. Or, as Mary later explained, when she babysat the 7 month old in August 1961.

That's the child that was born in January 1961, over which discussions were held with the Salvation Army about adoption in April 1961. The same child we see with the kenyan and Ruth in Kenya after the birth of Mark.

Barack Hussein Obama 11 left the country...he left his name behind, but Malik remembers playing with him when they were children in Nairobi, because Malik and his sister lived with Ruth and the kenyan.

[Yosemitest]

First question:

Have you the links I listed in comment #57 and followed all of them through?

If not, I suggest you do.

There are many witnesses to the Kenyan Birth, one of them is the ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF, himself, and both of his parents.
Then there's his grandmother, as well.
Need I go on?

[Jeff Winston]

The code number “9” did NOT mean “unstated” in the federal data, as fraudulently claimed by Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse.

It meant “Other nonwhite.” See page 11 of the REAL 1961 Vital Statistics Instruction Manual, linked to above.

[Fred Nerks]

So they classified the father as ‘other, non-white’ because he refused the classification of negro, and insisted upon AFRICAN?

I guess if I was the clerk, I would have done the same.

[Tau Food]

there is no proof that Stanley Ann Dunham is the mother.

Similarly, there is no proof that Jane Fonda is not the mother. And, the White House hasn't dared to deny it.

I sense that the truth is struggling to break free any time now. It's just too important.

[Jeff Winston]

If they actually classified him as that at all, which I don’t think we know.

From what I understand, the federal data was entered by the feds, based on microfilm copies of birth certificates sent to them by the states.

So (again contrary to the claims of the Cold Case Posse) we don’t even know how the feds classified the parents.

In fact, I’m not sure they even did. I remember reading something about it, but I can’t recall the details right now. Anyway, the manual is there. You can look at the specs for yourself.

[Fred Nerks]

And I think you are throwing the word fraudulently around rather loosely. As far as I can tell, the only frauds there are around here are the supporters of the greatest fraud of all time. And you know who that is.

[Fred Nerks]

Would a comparison with another document from around the same time perhaps be useful?

[GBA]

Gosh. That sure looks real! Ah, waitaminute...was there a "Kenya, East Africa" in 1961?

According to Wiki: "The British Empire established the East Africa Protectorate in 1895, from 1920 known as the Kenya Colony. The independent Republic of Kenya was formed in 1964."

I guess the average fraudulent document making obot probably wouldn't know that, just as "African" is a race, same as "Mexican" is, if you slept through a public school education.

[Jeff Winston]

And I think you are throwing the word fraudulently around rather loosely.

I don't think so.

The Cold Case Posse claimed they had THE 1961 FEDERAL VITAL STATISTICS INSTRUCTION MANUAL IN THEIR POSSESSION.

They claimed that that manual specified that the code number "9" meant "not reported" or "not stated."

They did this in a major press conference that they presented to the entire nation. Or at least, as many people in the entire country who would listen.

At that press conference, they showed the press and the public images that purportedly came from that manual - the 1961 Vital Statistics Instruction Manual.

They were very clear about all of this.

And it was all a flat-out lie.

And it has been PROVEN, beyond any doubt whatsoever, that it was all a flat-out lie.

Now this is from people who are SUPPOSED to be professional criminal investigators.

No, I don't think I'm throwing the word "fraudulently" around loosely AT ALL.

Mind you, this isn't the only birther falsehood that's been exposed.

In fact, I can't think of a single claim that has EVER been made by birthers that hasn't been exposed as being false.

Out of DOZENS of such claims.

So in fact, Fred, it's ALL a fraud.

[Fred Nerks]

I simply cannot follow your comment. We know that the LFBC for zero is a fabrication. Right?

The pencilled numbers however, have a meaning. They came from somewhere.

It’s obvious that the parents of the Nordyke twins were Caucasian - and the pencilled number beside that classification is 1. (one)

Both the mother’s names (regardless if Stanley Ann Dunham really was the mother, IT’S A FORGERY! shows the classification of O (zero) in relation to when last worked...

So there’s a pattern.

The kenyan student on the forgery, whose name is shown as Barack Hussein Obama, has a classification of 9 (nine) next to his claimed Race of AFRICAN.

And his employment status (student) is also classified with the pencilled number 9. (nine)

I think that suggests,although the majority of the detail on that LFBC is fraudulent, that the ORIGINAL document used as a template, that portion of which relates to the FATHER, shows us his RACE was statistically as valid as his employment.

NUMBER NINE.NOT EMPLOYED. RACE NOT STATED.

AND KENYA HAS BEEN KNOWN AS KENYA EVER SINCE I CAN REMEMBER.

http://www.oldcambrians.com/Photos-PrincessElizabeth1952.html

Princess Elizabeth visited KENYA in 1952.

[Fred Nerks]

...Now this is from people who are SUPPOSED to be professional criminal investigators.

Who might have been misinformed or misled, for all you and I know; you are building your case around a pencilled in number on a forgery...pardon me if I don't go into a tail-spin over it.

[bluecat6]

So the Dreams narrative about the nice little white girl from Kansas catching the eye of the dashing African is true?

To believe an actual Kenyan birth with SADS as the actual mother you HAVE to then believe the very debunked Dreams narrative that BHO Senior really cared about SADS and little Barry and care enough to send her to Kenya without him. Its that simple.

Since nothing is proven about anything in 1961 Kenya may still be the ‘wheres the real birthplace’ lottery. But the born in Kenya story looks like a honeypot as they say in the computer security world.