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8th grade exam- 1895 [I'll bet there are PhDs today who couldn't pass this test]
Church & Son's Blog ^ | 7/22/12 | Randy Church

Posted on 05/27/2013 10:30:46 AM PDT by LibWhacker

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To: SkyDancer

If you think TruthorFiction.com said the same thing Snopes did, you have a serious reading comprehension problem.


41 posted on 05/27/2013 11:11:46 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Read good ole liberal Snopes, they call it False and then make excuses as to why they couldn't pass such a test. I no longer consider their verifications of any value.
42 posted on 05/27/2013 11:13:10 AM PDT by pepperdog ( I still get a thrill up my leg when spell check doesn't recognize the name/word Obama!)
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To: LibWhacker
In 1850, the president of either Yale or Harvard got a bunch of brainiacs together and they decided that all this memorization was for the birds. Until then all of the colleges followed the scholastic model in which everyone was taught how to think. From that point on there was a gradual pulling away from that format to the truncated form we have today.

What our Founders trained for was at the time a bachelors in philosophy where it was required that they know Greek and Latin before they entered college.

Just because I was curious I went to the Harvard website to see if they still had some form of the old scholastic training our Founders went through and I did find something close - the PhD. program in philology (which requires Greek and Latin), without the moral training aspect. So, if our Founders essentially had a PhD according to today's standards, what does that say about today's PhDs?

43 posted on 05/27/2013 11:15:12 AM PDT by Slyfox (The red face of shame is proof that the conscience is still operational.)
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To: SkyDancer

How does TruthorFiction.com compare to snopes?


44 posted on 05/27/2013 11:15:37 AM PDT by MNDude (Sorry for typos. Probably written on a smartphone, and I have big clumsy fingers.)
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To: who knows what evil?

If you had the texts, you’d change your mind. They’re stupid easy....and like learning your ABC’s.


45 posted on 05/27/2013 11:15:39 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Snopes is once again exercising its Inner Libtard.

IIRC, the exam was given once and the private tutor never used it again.


46 posted on 05/27/2013 11:15:42 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Now he thinks he can think for everyone else

Steve Jobs delenda est.

/johnny

47 posted on 05/27/2013 11:17:48 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
They didn't say the same thing. Read the article then get back to me. I simply stated that SNOPS had the same response. TruthorFiction.com had basically said the same thing. Type in your browser search box: "8th. grade test hoax" and see how many hits you get on it from different sources.

I'm thinking you might have a reading comprehension problem yourself.

Please do not "REPLY" to my comments unless you are actually going to make a "reply" instead of a "Lookie here dummie"

48 posted on 05/27/2013 11:18:00 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: LibWhacker

Seen it many times, it’s a fake. Nobody in Salina KS is that smart.


49 posted on 05/27/2013 11:18:19 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: MNDude
Don't know I just searched on:"

8th. grade test hoax

I did this because of how many times over the years on Free Republic this was posted and in many emails I've received over time.

I couldn't visit all the sites that referenced this.

50 posted on 05/27/2013 11:20:17 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: LibWhacker
Interesting to see how the informational content has changed in some 100 years.
I wonder what the requirements were to attend public school in 1895 in
Kansas assuming this was a public school. Also how many grade levels did
they have, not much more than 8 I'd guess.

Interesting info but not necessarily pertient to the 1895 exam.

knowledge doubling curve

Up until the 1900 it was said that the accumulation of knowledge doubled
every century.

At the end of World War 2 every 25 years.

Today – well anywhere from 1 to 1.5 years to – Nanotechnology they say
every 2 years – Clinical knowledge every 18 months.

And IBM predicts that in the next couple of years, information will
double every 11 hours!

51 posted on 05/27/2013 11:21:14 AM PDT by deport
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re: “If you think TruthorFiction.com said the same thing Snopes did, you have a serious reading comprehension problem.”

That is NOT what Skydancer said. All he said was he got his info from TruthorFiction.com, not Snopes.com.


52 posted on 05/27/2013 11:23:26 AM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: LibWhacker
What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft.. Long at $20 per metre?

The correct answer is "whatever the market value is" because nobody would pay $20/m in 1895 -- or even in 1995. Okay, the cost of a thing may be defined to be whatever sellers are asking. But if one seller is a fool and is asking a trillion dollars, that's not the actual cost for any buyer as the competition will make sure of it. HAHAHAHA... I AM smart after all! ;-)

53 posted on 05/27/2013 11:24:04 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

http://www.salina.com/1895test/

dropzone06-12-2003, 04:39 PM
On another message board somebody posted that 1895 eighth-grade test from Salina, KS. I dutifully posted the Snopes link debunking it but didn’t reread the debunking. Now people are saying that it doesn’t debunk it, though it is clearly labeled “FALSE.” I read the link and the parts questioning the provenance of the test have been expunged and I look like an idiot for trusting Snopes! Even an actor—AN ACTOR!—is laughing at me. Oh, the shame of it!

Until today I trusted Snopes more than my wife, my mother, and my pastor combined. Has my trust been misplaced? Has Snopes proved to be yet another idol with feet of clay? WTF? And why hasn’t Cecil weighed in on this, if he’s so smart?

Fuming :mad: ,

drop


Boyo Jim06-12-2003, 04:47 PM
I’ll take “What the hell are you talking about for 100, Alex”.


Darwin’s Finch06-12-2003, 04:49 PM
Well, if this article (http://www.saljournal.com/sub/1895/) can be believed (and I don’t see any reason why it can’t be), the test would seem to be the real deal. What Snopes does debunk is the idea that the difficulty of the test demonstrates a decline in the quality of education, not whether the test itself is real.


54 posted on 05/27/2013 11:24:09 AM PDT by donaldo
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To: SkyDancer

Lookie here, smart guy, your awesome brilliance must be causing too much glare on the computer screen for you to discern that they most certainly did NOT ‘basically’ say the same thing.

Truthorfiction.com verified that the document was real, but couldn’t verify that it was a test for 8th graders. Meanwhile, Snopes tied themselves in knots attacking the idea of even questioning such a thing.


55 posted on 05/27/2013 11:27:15 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: rusty schucklefurd; SkyDancer
It isn't what Skydancer said?

That's interesting, because this is what Skydancer said:

I did a web search and there were others who’ve said the same thing. This posting was from TruthorFiction.com not snopes.

56 posted on 05/27/2013 11:30:48 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
They said essentially the same thing that it was an urban legend. Not a word for word of SNOPES or other sites. They gave their own version of the legend. When someone says they said the "Same thing" it does not follow that they just copied some other site's version and used it as their own.

Try thinking outside the box.

57 posted on 05/27/2013 11:34:00 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: SkyDancer

Snopes: “FALSE”, followed by a diatribe about how it doesn’t matter if it’s true, with nothing to back up the ‘false’ assertion.

TOF: “TruthOrFiction.com has listed this eRumor as unproven, even though there is a source for it and we have obtained an actual copy of the exam. There has not been sufficient proof given, in our view, that the exam is what is claimed.”

If ‘thinking outside the box’ means that those two positions are ‘the same thing’ or even ‘basically the same’, I’d posit that the box you’re thinking outside of is there for a very good reason and you’d probably do well to venture back on inside it.


58 posted on 05/27/2013 11:43:37 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: LibWhacker

I took a final in graduate grammar where there was only one question. What is a noun. I wrote for two hours.


59 posted on 05/27/2013 11:46:42 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

The problem with arguing with a moron is that the moron thinks they’re arguing with a moron. Go do some searching yourself. Have a nice Memorial Day.


60 posted on 05/27/2013 11:47:22 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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