Posted on 05/06/2013 9:44:33 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
“Another birther controversy could be brewing for 2016,” MSNBC host Chuck Todd informed on Monday. Though this time aimed at a Republican: Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), who was born in Canada. While Cruz likely doesn’t face any real eligibility problems, Todd acknowledged, “questions are being asked.”
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How exactly is “natural-born citizen” defined? Since Cruz’s mother was born in the U.S. and his father became a citizen in 2005, Todd explained, going on to list similar scrutiny faced by President Obama, George Romney, and John McCain.
“The legal evidence seems to side with Cruz,” Todd argued, “but there is a grey area, and that may be all his opponents need.”
“It’s pretty clear that he qualifies as natural born,” Peter Spiro, a professor at Temple University, stated in response to Todd’s earlier question about how the term is defined. To clarify, Todd summed up: “If you are born to U.S. citizens abroad, no matter where, if they are U.S. citizens, if…one of your parents is a U.S. citizen — then that should qualify as natural born.”
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How did you arrive at that conclusion?
Let them open that can of worms. Let them.......
He has been.
If Cruz, who was born in Canada and lived there until he was four years of age, and had a foreign national father, is a natural born citizen, then 0bastard is one too.
It’s not “opinion”. It’s clear what a NBC unless a person wants to think it means something else due to personal reasons.
YOu and no one else know who 0bastard’s actual birth mother or father are. Well, some know, but they aren’t telling. NOr is his DOB, place of birth or nationality known. All he’s shown are fogeries and a mythical life made up by his handlers and presented in the fake autobiography written by Ayers.
The BNA supposedly show that 0bmaa Sr had a son. No evidence it’s the guy in the WH.
You didn’t read the reserach threads much, did you.
To parents who were legal citizens of India.
Not NBC.
Natural born citizen means a child whose parents were citizens at the time of his birth, and was born on US soil.
The natural born citixen’s parents need to be citizens, but they don’t need to be natural born citizens, they could be naturalized - but before the child is born.
Cold Case Posse Supporter is a good guy, he knows what NBC means. Read some of his comments.
Most Americans learn in grade school civics a President has to be born on U.S. soil for unique natural born citizen status. Another laughable article with another professor disclaiming this like a fool. All these media hacks and “professionals” do is confuse and muddy a simple issue.
Cruz isn’t eligible and if he wants to play games like ignorance or nit pick the Constitution he’s a domestic enemy. John McCain is another fraud never born in this country but in Panama, helped put on ballot by Zero, Hillary, and the entire Congress with the toilet paper script they ran with called Resolution 511. It’s all about power. Roger Calero ran on 2008 Pres ballot yet born in Nicaragua. And Zero the liberal fascist muzzie allegianced puppet ran his mouth til 2007 that he was born in Kenya, has yet to submit any birth documentation that hasn’t been deemed an obvious forgery and scrubbed his past. If Stanley Ann Dunham is actually Zero’s mother and he was actually born in 1961 abroad his mother was not old enough to confer citizenship.
Section 301 (a)(7) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 was the relevant citizenship law at the time of Zero’s birth. Requirement was that the parent had to have been physically present in U.S. at least 19 years old to confer citizenship. She was born Nov 29, 1942 and was 18. Therefore Zero is an illegal alien, which I personally believe true based on everything scrubbed.
Concerning the additional requirement of 2 U.S. citizen parents at the time of a one’s birth on American soil for natural born citizen status, SCOTUS will have to take it up, and you can read David’s comments here, a Constitutional lawyer in the beltway on how that would play out.
His father was not a citizen of any country? Come on, show some proof of that. Nowhere man? He was born in Cuba, and only became a US citizen a few years ago. He spent decades not being a citizen of any country?
“The BNA supposedly show that 0bmaa Sr had a son. No evidence it’s the guy in the WH.”
The year he had that particular son, is the birthyear Hussein uses. I read all the info. on the British records.
I don’t care whose son Hussein is, as far as I am concerned he is a militant Islamic Muslim against the United States.
“YOu and no one else know who 0bastard’s actual birth mother or father are.”
That is true and I don’t care because, in my opinion, he is a militant Islamic Muslim against the United States.
Thanks, N&V, for the ping. Seize, this is an eye-opening post. Thanks for putting this info out there; Obama’s people knew the truth from the beginning, as is obvious from their various shenanigans.
Carp, what is your theory on the strange case of the Kapiolani-Obama letter? In Jan ‘09 Kapiolani posted a letter from Obama thanking them for being “the place of my birth”. Six mos later it disappeared w’out explanation, never to resurface.
My theory is that Obama’s people already knew they might need to produce a LF BC that noted the specific hospital. Whoever it was in the HI bureaucracy who was willing to ‘modify’ Obama’s ‘birth records’ demanded that a hospital acknowledge Obama’s birth, before it was added to the ‘record’. [Particularly since Obama & crew had claimed Queen’s Hospital as the place more than once.] Kapiolani played ball until the posted letter elicited too many questions, & then removed it.
That’s the way it looks to me, anyway. What are your thoughts?
“Whoever it was in the HI bureaucracy who was willing to ‘modify’ Obama’s ‘birth records’ demanded that a hospital acknowledge Obama’s birth, before it was added to the ‘record’.”
My theory is that Kapiolania was elated to fund-raise on Barry’s claimed birth there...until their legal counsel told them they could go to jail if they couldn’t substantiate that claim...and they couldn’t. But they didn’t go public because they are all Obots and they would have already been liable for any donations based on that claim.
Good for you. We’re all conservatives here, aren’t we?
Look, I’m not a legal expert, nor am I going to try and masquerade as one. But I have read a little about Cruz’s citizenship issue.
The founders didn’t define “natural born citizen”, but a particular law, 8 U.S. code 1801 that defines “citizens of the U.S. at birth.” One of the listed categories includes people born outside of the country to one parent who is a U.S. citizen and one who is an alien. The citizen parent must have lived in the U.S. for at least five years, two of them after age 14.
It seems to me Cruz would be eligible to run for president.
Well that makes sense too. But there is also the other angle. Namely, how cd a hospital be added to Obama’s “handwritten” ‘birth records’ w’out the hospital’s consent? The forger wd go down fast & hard if they listed a hospital that responded by denying the claim. So they needed to know in advance & for certain the hospital wd go along. Only by some public display—as of a posted letter—wd the hospital be on record as acknowledging the claim, correct?
Didn't Congress write 8 U.S. code 1801?
Thank you.
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