Video: National Public Radio's Betsy Liley Openly Admitted Obama Birther Cover Up

BirtherReport.com ^ | April 28, 2013 | Tim Brown

[Seizethecarp]

Senior Director of Institutional Giving for NPR Betsy Liley said it is still a question of whether or not Barack Obama was born in the United States. She clearly is heard talking about a coverup, keeping the birther issue out of the news because it was “political” and even indicating that there was monkey business going on in Hawaii concerning Obama’s birth certificate. Listen to the brief audio below and see for yourself. Birthers are not just on the right. There are clearly birthers on the left, they just want to cover up the truth.

[DiogenesLamp]

I'm not the one who keeps posting trash that doesn't line up with our history or our law,

You are the DOMINANT poster of trash which doesn't line up with out history, and you don't care. You want to believe what you want, and you don't give a crap as to what is the truth.

Whatever your politics, you are an agent of the enemy as far as i'm concerned.

or nonsense - like this article - that's simply false.

I make no claims in regard to the posted article, but if you are calling it trash, my tendency is to regard it as more credible.

[rodguy911]

The only way to go up against these criminals is mob vs.mob like the terrorists do. Its all they understand.

[DiogenesLamp]

I agree with you, I automatically assume non-birthers are stupid and/or ignorant.

Yo birthers, “He born here.” You know what I’m saying?

They don't even believe what they are saying. Get any one of them to admit the truth, and they will tell you that "Anchor Babies" and "Birth Tourism" are really bad ideas, and that we need to fix the law to disallow this sort of thing.

The Notion that the law was NEVER intended to permit such a thing in the first place is simply unthinkable to them.

George Will gets it.

So does Ann Coulter.

[Jeff Winston]

You are the DOMINANT poster of trash which doesn't line up with out history, and you don't care. You want to believe what you want, and you don't give a crap as to what is the truth.

Name one thing I've ever posted that wasn't true. I don't think you can, and IF you can, I've already corrected the mistake and moved on.

On the other hand, I can name literally DOZENS of things YOU'VE posted that are utter BS, and I can explain to anyone exactly WHY they are utter BS.

In fact, I am slowly working on a compilation of debunking of the literally dozens of fallacies that you and other Constitution-twisters have posted here, and explanations of exactly WHY they are BS.

It's taking a long time, because you've spewed such an unbelievable amount of BS here. But hopefully one of these days I'll finish it up and get it posted.

In the meantime, I'll keep exposing your BS for what it is, item by item. And anyone can track down the original sources and SEE what BS you're spewing.

Tick, tock.

[elengr]

I suspect you work on some sort of political staff, possibly RNC. If such is the case, then it demonstrates the overwhelming need to choke off their money supply.

Here's how I responded to a begging letter from the GOP (not that they cared or even bothered to read it):

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On 8/22/2012 1:13 PM, Reince Priebus wrote:

Friend,

As we head into the final stretch of the campaign, you will hear us use phrases like “getting out the vote” or “beefing up our ground game.”

The ground game – what is it?

The ground game is how we enlist supporters who help turn out voters on Election Day. It doesn’t matter how much people talk about being disappointed in President Obama’s failed policies if we can’t get the necessary votes on November 6th.

In the last presidential race, 18 percent of the turnout consisted of voters ages 18 to 29 who went for Obama by better than two to one. This time around there are 16 million potential first-time young voters.

If we want to take back Washington, then we need to increase our efforts to capture the youth vote and ensure our base is mobilized and effective on Election Day.

That’s why we’re asking for your help. With your donation, we can open up more Victory Offices for Mitt, Paul, and the Republican team in key battleground states to ensure a win in November.

Donate $10 or more today to help us get out the vote for Mitt, Paul, and the Republican team.

Thanks,

Reince Priebus
Chairman, Republican National Committee

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I know this probably won't matter to you and the GOP, but I will be voting for all republicans next election, but only because they are not democrats, who are worse.  At least most republicans are not Marxists and don't hate America, even though they are, by and large, self-serving wimps who aren't true conservatives. 

The day you, Reince, loudly and proudly proclaim that aka obama is either NOT a natural born Citizen (due to his foreign father) or else has committed criminal fraud on the American people by lying about his true identity is the day I will believe in you and open my wallet to the GOP.  Until then, you are just part of the problem and should best withdraw altogether from the political scene. 

Shame on you for betraying America.  For enabling and legitimizing the usurper, you currently are guilty both of misprision of felony and misprision of treason.  If you don't come to your senses and honor the oath you took to defend and uphold the Constitution, then you deserve to be in prison for your personal complicity in enabling the America-loathing criminal fraud currently occupying our white house.  I only barely tolerate you because the alternative is worse.  I and millions like me will be voting against aka obama, not FOR you and your ilk.  Until you change your ways, always keep in mind that you are a traitor who has failed America and can and will be removed by the voice of the people at the soonest possible opportunity. 

The time is ripe - speak up NOW about obama's fraud and ineligibility and you will be astounded by the groundswell of support you receive from the now largely awake American populous.  Speak up now and we may even forgive your personal complicity and that of the rest of congress in this unbelievable ongoing transgression against the American people and our way of life. 

[Seizethecarp]

“NPR Is also revealing that their audience might act in outrage upon hearing the news ...again.”

The NPR elite white post-graduate educated demographic adores Barry as though he was a dearest family member and casting the teensiest aspersion on his character is deeply wounding to their tender hearts.

As of today the chameleon has 50% approval on both Rasmussen and Gallup!

But Barry’s chickens are coming home to roost in the next couple of months as NOTHING (no swag) from his 2nd term agenda gets passed and Syria, Iran and N. Korea threaten to explode all at once just as the budget ceiling crisis hits and the stock market tanks by 20% (my best guess) AND Barrycare exchange insurance premium increases of 25%+ slam voters.

[DiogenesLamp]

Name one thing I've ever posted that wasn't true.

Whether it be true is the least salient aspect of what you post. You take a series of irrelevant data, and post it as support for your argument, when in fact it is often irrelevant, or merely a reiteration of a previous opinion based on a lack of, or a fallacious understanding.

I don't think you can, and IF you can, I've already corrected the mistake and moved on.

You contradict yourself in your very own sentence. This sounds like OJ Simpon in his "If I did it" book deal.

On the other hand, I can name literally DOZENS of things YOU'VE posted that are utter BS, and I can explain to anyone exactly WHY they are utter BS.

No you cannot, but because you are a deluded person, you will CLAIM you can, though it be a lie.

You merely CALL something BS. You cannot demonstrate it to be BS because you don't have a f***ing clue as to what you are talking about. You are a parrot, endlessly repeating scraps that you glean from Democrat websites such as "Dr. Conspiracy" and "Barackryphal."

On this issue, Republican Operatives have teamed up with Democrat Operatives to challenge and dismiss any arguments regarding Barry's, (Or McCain's, or Rubio's, or Cruz's, or any number of Potential rising stars in the Republican party's) legitimacy.

Further in this regard, the Republican Party's moderate and big money types believe the issue will cost Republican's votes because they foolishly think they can capture some of the illegal immigrant vote. (Or at least not motivate their relatives to vote against Republicans) They want to spike it for reasons of political expediency, and it is this group for whom I think you struggle so diligently.

In fact, I am slowly working on a compilation of debunking of the literally dozens of fallacies that you and other Constitution-twisters have posted here, and explanations of exactly WHY they are BS.

Nobody gives a rat's @ss about your efforts at "debunking" anything. The person who's arguments consist of nothing more than fallacies is in no position to attribute fallacies to anyone else. You don't have the competency to even get it right in the first place, let alone criticize anyone else. You are just an energetic big mouth constantly parroting blah blah blah.

It's taking a long time, because you've spewed such an unbelievable amount of BS here.

And still with the chutzpah from this one! The Biggest mouth full of sh*t is suggesting someone ELSE is spewing it!

In the meantime, I'll keep exposing your BS for what it is, item by item. And anyone can track down the original sources and SEE what BS you're spewing.

You will keep throwing up smoke and obfuscation because that's all you know how to do. I'm wondering if you are employed by the RNC or someone's campaign staff. I am thinking we need to find out more about you. You seem rather sensitive as to what it is you do for a living, but you always seem to be Johnny on the Spot regarding this issue. Sounds like a Job to me, and one which you are utterly f***ing up.

[DiogenesLamp]

I think you have pretty accurately summed them up. They do not stand on principle, they are concerned only with slobbering on the “potential voter’s” knob.

Their one concern is how they look to the MSM and the New York/Washington Cocktail crowd.

The RNC and affiliates have long been working to spike the issue of Natural citizen legitimacy because they regard it as politically damaging. They really don’t care what is the truth, they just want it to go away.

[Jeff Winston]

Like I say, nutjob, name one thing I’ve ever posted that wasn’t true.

Oh, yeah. You can’t.

Jerk.

[DiogenesLamp]

Like I say, nutjob, name one thing I’ve ever posted that wasn’t true.

It would be harder to find stuff you said in support of your argument which is true. Your entire Modus operandi is to post all sorts of stuff which may happen to be true, but which does not support your argument. You claim it as supporting your argument, and that is what turns it into a lie. It is a lie by misdirection.

You also lie by omission. For an example of you doing this, I point everyone's attention to message number 248 in this thread.

Jeff posts an excerpt of a statement by John Bingham, one of the primary authors of the 14th amendment. Jeff Presents John Bingham as supporting Jeff's argument that merely being born inside our borders is enough to make one a citizen. Jeff INTENTIONALLY cuts out the further commentary from John Bingham in which he explicitly states that Jeff's theory is not correct. This is how Jeff posted it.

Jeff Wrote:

As for John Bingham, why don't you give his other quote:

“Who are natural-born citizens but those born within the Republic? Those born within the Republic, whether black or white, are citizens by birth — natural born citizens.”

Bingham clearly states that natural born citizens are those who are CITIZENS BY BIRTH.

Here is the rest of the quote which Jeff left out, and which completely destroys Jeff's argument.

Who are natural-born citizens but those born within the Republic? Those born within the Republic, whether black or white, are citizens by birth — natural born citizens. There is no such word as white in your constitution. Citizenship, therefore does not depend upon complexion any more than it depends upon the rights of election or of office. All from other lands, who by the terms of your laws and compliance with their provisions become naturalized, and are adopted citizens of the United States; all other persons born within the Republic, of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty, are natural born citizens.

Oh, yeah. You can’t.

I just did. Deal with it.

[Jeff Winston]

Hey, nutjob. Why don't you post the REST of what I wrote in that EXACT SAME POST?

Or at least give some of the salient part of it, like this:

As for your two other quotes:

...“[I] find no fault with the introductory clause, which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen. . . . ” John A. Bingham

Once again, you do what birthers always do: Take evidence that SEEMS to support your case, and present it as "definitive."

Both quotes misrepresent what the people who said them understood natural born citizens to be.

...As for John Bingham, why don't you give his other quote:

“Who are natural-born citizens but those born within the Republic? Those born within the Republic, whether black or white, are citizens by birth — natural born citizens.”

So in the very post where you claim I "lied" by not giving the full quote, the reason I was presenting other things Bingham said was because YOU repeatedly leave out Bingham's OTHER words that I brought forward.

And in fact, in that very same post I actually quoted Bingham saying, "of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty."

So I really didn't even do what you accused me of doing, because I included virtually those exact same words from Bingham. Now if I had, it would've only been a slight omission, not a "lie." But I actually included a quote from Bingham virtually identical to that one IN THAT EXACT POST.

So THANKS for illustrating to everyone what a liar you are. You've made my case quite eloquently enough.

[DiogenesLamp]

Hmmm.... maybe if I keep repeating this point, you will eventually GET that John Bingham does not support your argument. (Nor does any SANE person in History.)

On the other hand, if it is your job to just keep parroting your claims, it won't matter.

[laplata]

The FBI didnt......but I would be willing to wager the Russians did back when he was younger. They probably have a file on every marxist in the USA. I am sure they know about his past. Dont think they didnt talk to FMD about Obama and his mom or talk to his mother. They were prime pickings for the Soviets!

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You’re right. I met Yuri Bezmenov, the KGB defector and we spent about 2 weeks with him. He said the KGB had files on all the commies in the USA.

[SaraJohnson]

Covering up the truth about Obama’s qualification to kee;p him in office is a crime, plus it is flat out evil and treasonist.

[Jeff Winston]

So now that we've established that you lied about me being a "liar," why don't we also visit, say, even ONE of the other bogus things you've said here?

Mmmmm. Let's see.

Let's go with a selection from that same thread, where you claimed:

A) that "the Initial drafts of Article II... was submitted by Alexander Hamilton" and which required that one be merely "born a citizen"

False. Hamilton did not submit "the initial drafts of Article II" to the Convention. He did a presentation in which he submitted some ideas, but no initial draft of Article II. And his presentation, according to the notes, contained no mention of an eligibility requirement at all.

The "born a citizen" language you mention came from Hamilton's notes which he gave to Madison at the END of the Convention, after the discussion was all over. Those notes represent Hamilton's private ideas of what he had decided, during the course of the deliberations, that he wanted in a Constitution. They were never presented to the Convention at all.

B) This (the language "born a citizen") was "voted down in favor of the current language."

False. It wasn't "voted down." There's no evidence any language was ever presented to the Convention except for "natural born citizen."

So there we have two very clear, very specific claims by you, which are absolutely false. In the same thread in which you also FALSELY accused me of "lying."

So that's 3 known falsehoods from you, in just one single thread. You've spun plenty more BS than that, but I think that should do just to illustrate the point.

[DiogenesLamp]

So now that we've established that you lied about me being a "liar," why don't we also visit, say, even ONE of the other bogus things you've said here?

We established that you ARE a liar, and you generally use misdirection and omission as your vehicle of lying.

[Jeff Winston]

We established that you ARE a liar, and you generally use misdirection and omission as your vehicle of lying.

Sooooooorrrry.

As anyone can see, we established that I in fact did not lie in the instance you named.

In fact, I didn't even bend the truth. I called you out for failing to include the part of Bingham's quote in which he says that those born in the Republic are natural born citizens, and equates "citizens by birth" with "natural born citizens."

Even when doing so, I included a quote VIRTUALLY IDENTICAL to the one you name.

Your response to being called out on your own dishonesty was to falsely accuse me of "lying." It was a false, LYING accusation then, and it's a false, LYING accusation now.

You are nothing but a lying troll, and I have no idea why JimRob and the moderators tolerate your presence here.

So... having pointed out your REPEATED LYING by falsely accusing ME of "lying," it only took a glance around to find TWO OBVIOUSLY FALSE CLAIMS by you in the EXACT SAME THREAD.

Your repeated falsehoods are documented, and everyone reading this thread can see that you're nothing but a lying troll.

[DiogenesLamp]

Methinks thou doth protest too much.

[Jeff Winston]

Methinks thou doth protest too much.

Methinks thou doth lie and troll too much.

[DiogenesLamp]

Even your comebacks are childish and lame. (tu quoque in fact.)