Posted on 04/27/2013 4:51:37 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
I would love to see the scientific evidence that backs this up. Have often seen the assertion, but never the evidence.
It seems highly unlikely that anyone sets out to do a crime while wondering the consequences. This assigns logic to people who possess almost none of it.
I read an LA Times article once about them trying to hang a 300+ pound woman, and it ripped her head off.
Hanging went out of vouge because of a series of messy
botched executions
Some cases the drop was not far enough to break neck so
slowly stranggled
Others dropped too far - rope would rip out chuncks of fleah
and condemmed would bleed all over...
In some cases head would be ripped off....
Or rope would break and have to repeat some 2-3 times
The guillotine would be a good one. It is quick, painless,and should meet the condition of humane
Cool.
“Hanging went out of vouge because of a series of messy
botched executions
Some cases the drop was not far enough to break neck so
slowly stranggled
Others dropped too far - rope would rip out chuncks of fleah
and condemmed would bleed all over...
In some cases head would be ripped off....
Or rope would break and have to repeat some 2-3 times”
Those are all very good reasons for bringing it back
After he passed out, he awakes back in his cell. “We’ll try again tomorrow, maybe the day after. No time limit.” says the warden.
There’s a sleeper of a movie called “Galaxy Quest” where a reptilian enemy is torturing another alien, who begs to be killed. The Bad Guy says something like “I will kill you when I get tired of the noises you make.” I’d like to see that kind of State Revenge in cases like the above.
I spook the yell out of people when we discuss capital punishment. Somebody will always bring up multiple/mass murderers and how CP didn’t deter them. I suggest that the perp be executed for each murder. ???? As with my opening paragrapgh, one false (unknown to the perp) execution. Then wash, rinse, repeat. Maybe after the second time the perp is told only that he MAY be executed each time, up to the number of persons he killed - then add - “maybe less”. In the case of really heinous murders after the limit is reached, the perp is told they lost count and have to start over.
While I’m on this rant, here’s a sidebar I asked of a lawyer who was running for judge in our area. “If DNA can quickly free an innocent man who is imprisoned, why can’t it expedite an execution?” Deer-in-headlights. At the least absolute DNA evidence should preclude plea-bargaining a death sentence down to Life.
One thing the Saudis do right is public beheadings. Would this joker be so flippant with a big, ugly dude standing over him with a sword?
If you want to go with a softer execution, go back to the electric chair but hook it up to “The Clapper.”
But it still worked. She died, right?
When possible, an execution should be similar to what the criminal did to their victim(s).
A few years ago, some dirtbag on death row argued against the electric chair because it was “cruel and unusual.” He was on death row for raping and torturing a woman to death. In the act of his crimes, he repeatedly shocked her with electrical wires.
When he pulled the “Cruel and Unsual” crap, they should have said “Good, we’ve decided to use 50 amp cables instead of old sparky.”
The way to do this is for the congressional judicial committees to pass a law recognizing the states as “competent” to carry out the death penalty; thus removing the ability of federal judges to nit-pick the *process*, method or means of execution.
Thereafter the states could execute as they saw fit, using any ‘traditional’ means of execution they chose: hanging, gassing, electrocution, firing squad, or as at least some would still choose today, lethal injection.
In any crime where the victim would have been able to justifiably use lethal force, it is the criminal himself who has openly declared that the fruits of his crime are of greater value than his own life. Let them harvest that fruit.
"To be hanged, drawn and quartered (less commonly "hung, drawn and quartered") was from 1351 a penalty in England for men convicted of high treason, although the ritual was first recorded during the reigns of King Henry III (1216–1272) and his successor, Edward I (1272–1307).
Convicts were fastened to a hurdle, or wooden panel, and drawn by horse to the place of execution, where they were hanged (almost to the point of death), emasculated, disembowelled, beheaded and quartered (chopped into four pieces). Their remains were often displayed in prominent places across the country, such as London Bridge."
It would make a bundle on pay per view, I don't doubt.
See my FReeper profile for an alternative to the death penalty as presently constituted.
“Cruel and Unsual”
That’s why we have them on death row for so long. The state should give them the option. Lethal injection, firing squad, electric chair or hanging with one being the default position.
Terrorists and those that prey upon children should be dispatched in such a fashion. It is a fate they would have earned.
It would be too much like right.
A sound solution to the problem.
The Deterrent Effect of the Death Penalty
Federal, state, and local officials need to recognize that the death penalty saves lives. How capital punishment affects murder rates can be explained through general deterrence theory, which supposes that increasing the risk of apprehension and punishment for crime deters individuals from committing crime. Nobel laureate Gary S. Becker’s seminal 1968 study of the economics of crime assumed that individuals respond to the costs and benefits of committing crime.[10]
According to deterrence theory, criminals are no different from law-abiding people. Criminals “rationally maximize their own self-interest (utility) subject to constraints (prices, incomes) that they face in the marketplace and elsewhere.”[11] Individuals make their decisions based on the net costs and benefits of each alternative. Thus, deterrence theory provides a basis for analyzing how capital punishment should influence murder rates. Over the years, several studies have demonstrated a link between executions and decreases in murder rates. In fact, studies done in recent years, using sophisticated panel data methods, consistently demonstrate a strong link between executions and reduced murder incidents.
Early Research. The rigorous examination of the deterrent effect of capital punishment began with research in the 1970s by Isaac Ehrlich, currently a University of Buffalo Distinguished Professor of Economics.[12] Professor Ehrlich’s research found that the death penalty had a strong deterrent effect. While his research was debated by other scholars,[13] additional research by Professor Ehrlich reconfirmed his original findings.[14] In addition, research by Professor Stephen K. Layson of the University of North Carolina at Greensboro strongly reconfirmed Ehrlich’s previous findings.[15]
Recent Research. Numerous studies published over the past few years, using panel data sets and sophisticated social science techniques, are demonstrating that the death penalty saves lives.[16] Panel studies observe multiple units over several periods. The addition of multiple data collection points gives the results of capital punishment panel studies substantially more credibility than the results of studies that have only single before-and-after intervention measures. Further, the longitudinal nature of the panel data allows researchers to analyze the impact of the death penalty over time that cross-sectional data sets cannot address.
Using a panel data set of over 3,000 counties from 1977 to 1996, Professors Hashem Dezhbakhsh, Paul R. Rubin, and Joanna M. Shepherd of Emory University found that each execution, on average, results in 18 fewer murders.[17] Using state-level panel data from 1960 to 2000, Professors Dezhbakhsh and Shepherd were able to compare the relationship between executions and murder incidents before, during, and after the U.S. Supreme Court’s death penalty moratorium.[18] They found that executions had a highly significant negative relationship with murder incidents. Additionally, the implementation of state moratoria is associated with the increased incidence of murders.
Separately, Professor Shepherd’s analysis of monthly data from 1977 to 1999 found three important findings.[19]
First, each execution, on average, is associated with three fewer murders. The deterred murders included both crimes of passion and murders by intimates.
Second, executions deter the murder of whites and African-Americans. Each execution prevents the murder of one white person, 1.5 African-Americans, and 0.5 persons of other races.
Third, shorter waits on death row are associated with increased deterrence. For each additional 2.75-year reduction in the death row wait until execution, one murder is deterred.
Professors H. Naci Mocan and R. Kaj Gittings of the University of Colorado at Denver have published two studies confirming the deterrent effect of capital punishment. The first study used state-level data from 1977 to 1997 to analyze the influence of executions, commutations, and removals from death row on the incidence of murder.[20] For each additional execution, on average, about five murders were deterred. Alternatively, for each additional commutation, on average, five additional murders resulted. A removal from death row by either state courts or the U.S. Supreme Court is associated with an increase of one additional murder. Addressing criticism of their work,[21] Professors Mocan and Gittings conducted additional analyses and found that their original findings provided robust support for the deterrent effect of capital punishment.[22]
Two studies by Paul R. Zimmerman, a Federal Communications Commission economist, also support the deterrent effect of capital punishment. Using state-level data from 1978 to 1997, Zimmerman found that each additional execution, on average, results in 14 fewer murders.[23] Zimmerman’s second study, using similar data, found that executions conducted by electrocution are the most effective at providing deterrence.[24]
Using a small state-level data set from 1995 to 1999, Professor Robert B. Ekelund of Auburn University and his colleagues analyzed the effect that executions have on single incidents of murder and multiple incidents of murder.[25] They found that executions reduced single murder rates, while there was no effect on multiple murder rates.
In summary, the recent studies using panel data techniques have confirmed what we learned decades ago: Capital punishment does, in fact, save lives. Each additional execution appears to deter between three and 18 murders. While opponents of capital punishment allege that it is unfairly used against African-Americans, each additional execution deters the murder of 1.5 African-Americans. Further moratoria, commuted sentences, and death row removals appear to increase the incidence of murder.
The strength of these findings has caused some legal scholars, originally opposed to the death penalty on moral grounds, to rethink their case. In particular, Professor Cass R. Sunstein of the University of Chicago has commented:
If the recent evidence of deterrence is shown to be correct, then opponents of capital punishment will face an uphill struggle on moral grounds. If each execution is saving lives, the harms of capital punishment would have to be very great to justify its abolition, far greater than most critics have heretofore alleged.[26]
Conclusion
Americans support capital punishment for two good reasons. First, there is little evidence to suggest that minorities are treated unfairly. Second, capital punishment produces a strong deterrent effect that saves lives.
David B. Muhlhausen, Ph.D., is Senior Policy Analyst in the Center for Data Analysis at The Heritage Foundation.
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[8] Ibid., p. 386.
[9] Ibid., p. 381.
[10] Gary S. Becker, “Crime and Punishment: An Economic Approach,” Journal of Political Economy, Vol. 76, No. 2 (1968), pp. 169-217.
[11] Paul H. Rubin, “The Economics of Crime,” in Ralph Andreano and John J. Siefried, eds., The Economics of Crime (New York: John Wiley and Sons, 1980), p. 13. Originally published in American Economic Review, Vol. 28, No. 4 (1978), pp. 38-43.
[12] Isaac Ehrlich, “The Deterrent Effect of Capital Punishment: A Question of Life and Death,” American Economic Review, Vol. 65, No. 3 (1975), pp. 397-417, and Isaac Ehrlich, “Capital Punishment and Deterrence: Some Further Thoughts and Additional Evidence,” Journal of Political Economy, Vol. 85 (August, 1977), pp. 741-788.
[13] William J. Bowers and Glenn L. Pierce, “The Illusion of Deterrence in Isaac Ehrlich’s Research on Capital Punishment,” Yale Law Journal, Vol. 85 (1975), pp. 187-208; Stephen A. Hoenak and William C. Weiler, “A Structural Model of Murder Behavior and the Criminal Justice System,” American Economic Review, Vol. 70, No. 3 (1980), pp. 327-341; Edward Leamer, “Let’s Take the Con out of Econometrics,” American Economic Review, Vol. 73, No. 1 (March 1983), pp. 31-43; and Peter Passell and John Taylor, “The Deterrent Effect of Capital Punishment: Another View,” American Economic Review, Vol. 67, No. 3 (June 1977), pp. 445-451.
[14] Isaac Ehrlich, “The Deterrent Effect of Capital Punishment: Reply,” American Economic Review, Vol. 67, No. 3 (June 1977), pp. 452-458, and Isaac Ehrlich, “Sensitivity Analysis of the Deterrence Hypothesis: Let’s Keep the Econ in Econometric,” Journal of Law and Economics, Vol. 42 (April 1999), pp. 455-487.
[15] Stephen K. Layson, “Homicide and Deterrence: A Reexamination of the United States Time-Series Evidence,” Southern Economic Journal, Vol. 52, No. 1 (1985), pp. 68-89.
[16] The panel data sets used in these recent studies consist of observations of the 50 states or all United States counties over many time periods, usually years and months. Panel data sets allow social scientists to separate the effect of capital punishment from other socioeconomic and policy factors to ascertain the influence of executions on murder incidents.
[17] Hashem Dezhbakhsh, Paul H. Rubin, and Joanna M. Shepherd, “Does Capital Punishment Have a Deterrent Effect? New Evidence from Postmoratorium Panel Data,” American Law and Economics Review, Vol. 5, No. 2 (2003), pp. 344-376.
[18] Hashem Dezhbakhsh and Joanna M. Shepherd, “The Deterrent Effect of Capital Punishment: Evidence from a ‘Judicial Experiment,’” Economic Inquiry, Vol. 44, No. 3 (2006), pp. 512-535.
[19] Joanna M. Shepherd, “Murders of Passion, Execution Delays, and the Deterrence of Capital Punishment,” Journal of Legal Studies, Vol. 33 (June 2004), pp. 283-321.
[20]H. Naci Mocan and R. Kaj Gittings, “Getting Off Death Row: Commuted Sentences and the Deterrent Effect of Capital Punishment,” Journal of Law and Economics, Vol. 46, No. 2 (2003), pp. 453-478.
[21] John Donahue III and Justin Wolfers, “Uses and Abuses of Empirical Evidence in the Death Penalty Debate,” Stanford Law Review, Vol. 58, No. 3 (2006), pp. 791-846.
[22] Naci H. Mocan and R. Kaj Gittings, “The Impact of Incentives on Human Behavior: Can We Make It Disappear? The Case of the Death Penalty,” National Bureau of Economic Research Working Paper No. 12631, October 2006.
[23] Paul R. Zimmerman, “State Executions, Deterrence, and the Incidence of Murder,” Journal of Applied Economics, Vol. 7, No. 1 (May 2004), pp. 163-193.
[24] Paul R. Zimmerman, “Estimates of the Deterrent Effect of Alternative Execution Methods in the United States: 1978-2000,” American Journal of Economics and Sociology, Vol. 65, No. 4 (October 2006), pp. 909-941.
[25] Robert B. Ekelund, Jr., John D. Jackson, Rand W. Ressler, and Robert D. Tollison, “Marginal Deterrence and Multiple Murders,” Southern Economic Journal, Vol. 72, No. 3 (2006), pp. 521-541.
[26] Cass R. Sunstein and Adrian Vermeule, “Is Capital Punishment Morally Required? The Relevance of Life-Life Tradeoffs,” AEI-Brookings Joint Center for Regulatory Studies Working Paper No. 05-06, March 2005, p. 42.
http://www.heritage.org/research/testimony/the-death-penalty-deters-crime-and-saves-lives
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