Civil War 2 ends 40 minutes after it starts when the Feds turn off the power. 99.9% of the population in the affected area heads to the refugee camp for the promise of a hot shower and WiFi access.
Note at the very end (after the author has concluded) is very interesting ....
“Nobody WANTS a civil war. But some people are starting to think about the circumstances under which it might happen. Where do we draw the line? “
I don’t think there’s any reason a state can’t leave the union. I always thought the “reason” for the Civil War was the firing on Ft. Sumter. But, if that hadn’t happened, and there was apparently no real reason for it, then I’m certain Lincoln would have come up with his own version of the Tonkin Gulf incident. I think it was Lincoln who wanted the war. But, think about it, if the flyover states left the union, then the union of takers only could not survive. But the union would have most, if not all, of the nukes. They’d use them too. Would Lee or Grant not have used nukes to bring a quicker end to the war? They’d have been remiss in their duties if they hadn’t. If there were a war, it would kill half the population, mostly due to starvation and disease.
The author pretty much loses all credibility though when he posts a fake NYT headline. The one in the article is a satire, not an actual headline that ever appeared in print.
Wherever you put that line, your government is ready and willing to step over it. They will become more and more inflammatory until people start to rebel. Be prepared for the consequences.
Us against the drones. Could happen.
It is the nature of government to grow more oppressive over time, not less. That makes civil war and revolutions all but inevitable, much like gravity makes things fall to the ground. The US is not immune to the natural laws of history and government, as some imagine us to be.
You asked, where do we draw the line?
The answer is when waiting would render us too weak to fight back, and when we have the plans, will, and the means to defend ourselves.
That day is not today, if it is to be tomorrow, we will require much more in the way of perpetration that we thou our states might even be able to defend ourselves both politically and militarily .
But make no illusions dispute how far we have come, we are not there yet. The Evil’s now being perpetrated against us we cannot redress today even if we had to.
i think when the armed confiscation starts, of whatever, from law abiding people. that will be a huge trigger because so many will realize those people are THEM. it’s a declaration of war on all of the citizens of this country.
those confiscation orders are equivalent of having to quarter and supply king george’s redcoats. and be disarmed.
it would be a civil war, with one side being for the new world order/globalists, and the other side for a restored, constitutional government.
There is no longer any room for hope. If we wish to be free² if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained, we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of Hosts is all that is left us!
Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations; and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable and let it come!
I repeat it, sir, let it come.
Patrick Henry, March 1775
What's going on sure sounds familiar.
The fault is ours, says Abe watching from "the other side."
If you could first know where you are and whither you are tending, you could better judge what to do and how to do it. You initiated a policy to tolerate the Marxist-Alinsky radicals and let them rant; not only has it not ceased but was constantly augmented by decades of infiltration and indoctrination. You now have two Americas. In my opinion, it will not cease until a crisis shall have been reached and passed. A house divided against itself cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half statist and half free; I do not expect the house to fall; but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other.
The question today is either the opponents of statism will arrest the further spread of it and place it on course of ultimate extinction, or its advocates will push it forward till it shall become permanent.
Have you no tendency to the latter condition?
Let anyone who doubts carefully contemplate that now almost complete legal combination — piece of machinery, so to speak — compounded of the Republican Party hands-across-the-aisle doctrine and the dreadful actions among statism's chief architects.
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Yea, everything is 180 degrees out of phase. What used to be wrong is right, what use to be right is now wrong. I tryto explain to the younger people, but they look at me like i am from mars. I just shake my head and walk on.
Buying ammo, can goods, silver, and other stuff. Getting out of debt. Getting ready for the bad to come.
Civil War 2 ends 40 minutes after it starts when the Feds turn off the power. 99.9% of the population in the affected area heads to the refugee camp for the promise of a hot shower and WiFi access.
Can we wait until after the Stanley Cup Playoffs ? I think the Canadiens might actually stand a chance this year....
I think more likely it will be a counter revolution. The revolution has already happened and we are living in the police state.
I think secession is exactly backwards. A better answer is to expel certain states from the union. Give them permission to return if they agree to live under the Constitution of the United States, and before they are permitted to rejoin, reset teh federal government back to its enumerated powers. That should buy us several generations of leeway before creeping liberalism edges back into our government.
There are FReepers who want a civil war. A couple of them have already posted to you. I don’t know if any of them have the courage of their convictions - that they would ever do anything more than sit on the sideline and say “Let’s you and him fight” crap.
Doubtful. These days, even most conservatives are more worried about the next episode of American Idol and keeping up with the Kardashians than they are in the state of our country.
Talk of civil war is as realistic as those on the left wishing everybody was sitting around singing Kum ba yah...
Every state simply has to many folks dependent on the Federal government for thier survival...folks on SS, veterans pensions, government assistance, government pay checks etc are not going to give those benefits up no matter how much some may wish/believe. It ain't gonna happen ...