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Anti-Birther Dr. Conspiracy Says The Presidential Natural Born Citizen Clause Is No Longer Relevant
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/03/taitz-surroundedthreats-loom/#comments ^

Posted on 03/27/2013 12:04:37 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter

From Dr. Conspiracy March 27, 2013 at 9:11 am

Based on my reading of the debates on Presidential eligibility and other commentary, my opinion is that the concerns that prompted the NBC clause are no longer relevant as our form or government is no longer novel...

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TOPICS: Education; Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: birftards; certifigate; communist; constitution; corruption; coup; democrats; education; electionfraud; mediabias; naturalborncitizen; obama; teaparty; voterfraud
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I went over to his website earlier and came across a comment section on a subject pertaining to Orly Taitz. A poster commented on the recent statement on April 14th by Justice Kennedy stating the likely reason for installing the natural born Citizen clause was to keep from inviting European royalty from assuming the office of the presidency. . This prompted this response from anti-birther Dr. Conspiracy, who all Fogbow members and Obama supporters look to as a authoritative figure on Obama's eligibility and documents:

"Some of the Framers of the Constitution felt that way. They were concerned that a foreigner, the agent of some foreign interest, would come to the United States, naturalize, and then bribe his way into the presidency. This sentiment is behind both the Article II requirements for the office of the President, as well as the Electoral College."

But then a few comments down, he states:

"March 27, 2013 at 9:11 am (Quote) #

"Based on my reading of the debates on Presidential eligibility and other commentary, my opinion is that the concerns that prompted the NBC clause are no longer relevant as our form or government is no longer novel, and that the US is now a powerful and wealthy nation. That said, I see no groundswell of sentiment that would reach the high bar necessary for a Constitutional amendment, so we’re left with what we have."

What you just read is the mindset of a Obama supporter. I do not agree with his opinion, nor with his other supporters who agree with him 100%, that Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 is no longer relevant. In my opinion, it has become more relevant than ever since we have had a non-natural born Citizen become president five years and counting. The quest to keep Article 2 Section 1 from becoming irrelevant is paramount to the national security of this nation.

1 posted on 03/27/2013 12:04:37 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter; Absolutely Nobama; aragorn; Art in Idaho; Aurorales; autumnraine; ...
No problem. Have a Constitutional Convention and amend it away.

Constitutional Eligibility

2 posted on 03/27/2013 12:07:11 PM PDT by null and void (If the government is so worried about civil disturbance, why are they working so hard to disturb us?)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

So their argument is “He was born here, and even if he wasn’t born here it doesn’t matter because ...”


3 posted on 03/27/2013 12:08:41 PM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter
The Presidential Natural Born Citizen Clause Is No Longer Relevant

Considering the present situation, I'd say that's about right. Not saying I like it, but reality agrees with that statement.

4 posted on 03/27/2013 12:09:33 PM PDT by Roccus
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5 posted on 03/27/2013 12:12:31 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

If there was a law about being a citizen or an NBC and it has fallen into disuse, such facts do not invalidate the law.


6 posted on 03/27/2013 12:13:14 PM PDT by OldEagle
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To: null and void

If I am ever in court for anything, I’ll just tell the judge that the law he wants to charge me with breaking is no longer ‘relevant’.

Will that work?


7 posted on 03/27/2013 12:15:25 PM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: null and void

on the contrary, the Founders were very, very astute to address the issue of keeping enemy agents out of the White House

and there have been few, if any, times when this part of our Constitution has been MORE “relevant”


8 posted on 03/27/2013 12:18:38 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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To: Roccus
No rule of law is relevant under this regime. I lost count of 0bama's impeachable offenses after 120 or something of that number. FReeper 'Nachum' has an excellent website which itemizes all the madness and FReeper 'Butterdezillion' can tell you everything you need to know about the forged birth certificate. His own research has yielded the smoking gun on the bc.

By the way, how many people have lost their jobs as a result of Fast & Furious, Solyndra, Benghazi or EPA's shadow Email scandal or fraudulent CBO estimates presented by Nancy Pelosi during 0bamacare? By the way, Pelosi COMMITTED FRAUD when she certified 0bama eligible to be a presidential candidate when she was Speaker of the House. Blah blah blah, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, too numerous to mention, etc, etc, and so on and so forth.

9 posted on 03/27/2013 12:18:53 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Dr. ‘Zot Clown’ CON has come a long way.


10 posted on 03/27/2013 12:19:59 PM PDT by Red Steel
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If the GOP cared about the Law (they do not)
and America (they do not), they would not have
allowed non-NBC (Mexican) Romney to run.

But they did, because the GOP supports ObamaCARE/RomneyCARE,
gay marriage, and the rest of the Mexican Romney agenda.


11 posted on 03/27/2013 12:24:29 PM PDT by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: faithhopecharity

It failed to keep FDR out of the White House ~


12 posted on 03/27/2013 12:25:52 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: faithhopecharity
Exactly. He can say he wants it to be no longer relevant all he wants.

If he really believes it, and thinks he can convince a enough other people it is, he should call for a convention to amend it out.

It isn't, he doesn't, he can't, and he won't.

13 posted on 03/27/2013 12:29:43 PM PDT by null and void (If the government is so worried about civil disturbance, why are they working so hard to disturb us?)
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Well f, let’s just allow anyone to run for president. I wonder Raúl Castro would be interested?


14 posted on 03/27/2013 12:29:43 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: SMARTY

Or to quote SOS Clinton, “What difference does it make”?


15 posted on 03/27/2013 12:31:06 PM PDT by research99
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To: servo1969

Well hell’s bells, let’s just go see if Putin and/or the Iranian guy Mark Levin calls yabba dabba do are interested.


16 posted on 03/27/2013 12:31:26 PM PDT by Marathoner (What are we waiting for? Where are the Articles of Impeachment!)
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To: Marathoner

Those guys are boring. Let’s get Kim Jung Un and have President Gangnam Style.


17 posted on 03/27/2013 12:47:21 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

“I do not agree with his opinion, nor with his other supporters who agree with him 100%, that Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 is no longer relevant.”

Do you consider Senator Santorum to be a natural born citizen?


18 posted on 03/27/2013 2:29:00 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter; American Constitutionalist; chicagolady; EternalVigilance; ...
What you just read is the mindset of a Obama supporter.

And he's not the first leftist to declare that a specific part of the Constitution that impedes his intended agenda is no longer relevant, although specifically attacking the "Natural Born Citizen" clause in this fashion is something kind of unique to the Obamatons.

Efforts at deligitimizing the Constitution by pronouncing disagreeable pieces of it "archaic" or inapplicable to the current day - as an alternative to pursuing much more difficult amendment process - were common throughout American history. Franklin D. Roosevelt did this with the "interstate commerce" clause, describing it as a relic of the horse and buggy era, because it (temporarily) put limits on congressional power to control the economy by enabling the SCOTUS to nullify some of his New Deal legislation as unconstitutional.

In many ways, the Obama era is a rerun of the 1930s. Not so much a coincidence, but because the intellectuals in the Obama camp are well aware of that earlier era and have a similar policy approach, especially on the economy.

19 posted on 03/27/2013 3:02:09 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter
Let's see what else in the Constitution is "no longer relevant."

1. Limiting voting to citizens.

2. Advice and Consent of the Senate.

3. Unlawful search and seizure.

4. Unlawful takings.

5. Self-defense with one's own arms.

6. Petitioning the government for redress of grievances.

-PJ

20 posted on 03/27/2013 3:29:17 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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