Constitutional Eligibility
"Some of the Framers of the Constitution felt that way. They were concerned that a foreigner, the agent of some foreign interest, would come to the United States, naturalize, and then bribe his way into the presidency. This sentiment is behind both the Article II requirements for the office of the President, as well as the Electoral College."
But then a few comments down, he states:
"March 27, 2013 at 9:11 am (Quote) #
"Based on my reading of the debates on Presidential eligibility and other commentary, my opinion is that the concerns that prompted the NBC clause are no longer relevant as our form or government is no longer novel, and that the US is now a powerful and wealthy nation. That said, I see no groundswell of sentiment that would reach the high bar necessary for a Constitutional amendment, so we’re left with what we have."
What you just read is the mindset of a Obama supporter. I do not agree with his opinion, nor with his other supporters who agree with him 100%, that Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 is no longer relevant. In my opinion, it has become more relevant than ever since we have had a non-natural born Citizen become president five years and counting. The quest to keep Article 2 Section 1 from becoming irrelevant is paramount to the national security of this nation.
Constitutional Eligibility
So their argument is “He was born here, and even if he wasn’t born here it doesn’t matter because ...”
Considering the present situation, I'd say that's about right. Not saying I like it, but reality agrees with that statement.
If there was a law about being a citizen or an NBC and it has fallen into disuse, such facts do not invalidate the law.
Dr. ‘Zot Clown’ CON has come a long way.
If the GOP cared about the Law (they do not)
and America (they do not), they would not have
allowed non-NBC (Mexican) Romney to run.
But they did, because the GOP supports ObamaCARE/RomneyCARE,
gay marriage, and the rest of the Mexican Romney agenda.
Well f, let’s just allow anyone to run for president. I wonder Raúl Castro would be interested?
“I do not agree with his opinion, nor with his other supporters who agree with him 100%, that Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 is no longer relevant.”
Do you consider Senator Santorum to be a natural born citizen?
And he's not the first leftist to declare that a specific part of the Constitution that impedes his intended agenda is no longer relevant, although specifically attacking the "Natural Born Citizen" clause in this fashion is something kind of unique to the Obamatons.
Efforts at deligitimizing the Constitution by pronouncing disagreeable pieces of it "archaic" or inapplicable to the current day - as an alternative to pursuing much more difficult amendment process - were common throughout American history. Franklin D. Roosevelt did this with the "interstate commerce" clause, describing it as a relic of the horse and buggy era, because it (temporarily) put limits on congressional power to control the economy by enabling the SCOTUS to nullify some of his New Deal legislation as unconstitutional.
In many ways, the Obama era is a rerun of the 1930s. Not so much a coincidence, but because the intellectuals in the Obama camp are well aware of that earlier era and have a similar policy approach, especially on the economy.
1. Limiting voting to citizens.
2. Advice and Consent of the Senate.
3. Unlawful search and seizure.
4. Unlawful takings.
5. Self-defense with one's own arms.
6. Petitioning the government for redress of grievances.
-PJ
-PJ
He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
- Obama has refused to prosecute voting rights laws, immigration laws, income tax laws for his cronies, etc.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
- Obama is suing the state of Arizona to block them from enforcing their own state laws for complying with federal immigration laws.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
- During the campaign, Obama said that health care negotiations would be covered on C-SPAN. Over and over he said this. Finally, he relented to a single meeting with House and Senate members for one afternoon only, where he disrespectfully referred to them by first name and then spent the time lecturing them.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
- Obama fired Inspector General Gerald Walpin for getting too close to the illegal actions of his supporters.
- 2013: Obama effectively dissolved Congress when he himself declared them to be in recess, and then made a series of so-called recess appointments of people who bypassed "advise and consent" oversight.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
- Again, see Obama's actions regarding Arizona and immigration laws.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.
- Obama's lawyers have been repeatedly arguing that We The People do not have standing in the Courts to question his Constitutional qualifications for office.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
- See the standing argument above.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.
- Obama has created a shadow government of unappointed "czars," circumventing the confirmation process and oversight of Congress.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
- Obama has tried to form his civilian national security force, which nobody is quite sure about its intended purpose.
- 2013: Now we know that Homeland Security has been buying up billions of rounds of hollow-tipped bullets, and buying military anti-mine vehicles for domestic use. They are also talking about armed drone strikes against Americans on American soil.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
- Sharia law, anyone?
- 2013: Gun Control treaties with the United Nations?
For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
- 2013: When will Ft. Hood murderer Maj. Nidal Hasan be tried? For Terrorism? Workplace Violence?
- And what about the mock trials for terrorists in New York City instead of at military tribunals at the military base at Guatanamo Bay?
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
- Making it "mandatory" to purchase health insurance?
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:
- Lt. Col. Terry Lakin is refused all avenues of defense in questioning the legitimacy of Obama as commander-in-chief. See also the "standing" question, and the unsupported by case history decision to overturn Arizona's immigration enforcement law.
- 2013: What about the Coptic Christian film-maker who was jailed so Obama could claim that he was the start of the Muslim riots in Bhengazi?
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies
- See the "czars" shadow government.
- 2013: What about the threats from the Obama administration to take over the health care of any state that refuses to enact Obamacare exchanges?
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
- Obama ignored centuries of contract law in order to take control of the auto industry and bypass legal bond holders to give the assets to the Labor Unions.
- 2013: They are again talking about seizing hard-earned and long-saved IRA and 401(k) private retirement accounts.
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
- Again, see suing states.
- 2013: Obama ordering his agencies to make the sequester as painful as possible on ordinary Americans.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
- The response to the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico blocked early response. Obama refused international help, allowing the oil to reach our protected shorelines. Obama used the spill to stop drilling in the Gulf, putting thousands and thousands of people out of work.
- 2013: After attacking Bush on his response to Hurricane Katrina, Obama has failed to deliver on his response to Hurricane Sandy. Maybe the victims in Staten Island weren't "Holder's people?"
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
- 2013: While states are running out of money, Obama is sending billions of dollars in cash and millions of dollars in military equipment to our enemies in Libya, Syria, and Egypt, including al Qaeda terrorists who were responsible for destroying the World Trade Center in New York City.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
- 2013: Has anybody seen or heard from the survivors of the attacks on Benghazi?
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.
- SEIU thuggery? New Black Panthers at the polls?
- 2013: Saudi Arabian citizens, home of the 9/11 terrorists, are now "trusted flyers" in the United States, while our own citizens continue to be humiliated at our airports by amateur security guards.
In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.
- Obama returning the Bust of Churchill to England and giving them useless tourist gifts in return? Obama ignoring Israel, and making their leaders wait while he dines on lunch? Obama making the Dahli Lama exit the White House through the garbage door?
That's the equivalent of saying:
We put the lock on the door because we were poor and didn't want anyone breaking in and stealing what little we had.
But now that we are rich with even more of value to lose we should take the lock off of the door.
Dr. Conspiracy is an idiot. I personally don’t care what he thinks about anything.