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To: RetiredArmy

>>Would New Gun Laws Spark Widespread Civil Disobedience

I seriously doubt it - for all the tough talk, 99.99% of the people when faced with the option of obeying the (illegal) laws, or having some sort of confrontation with a government hell-bent on taking away their rights, will rollover in 30 seconds or less and go back to the couch, eating Doritos, drinking their 2-Liter bottles of soda and watching mindless drivel on TV.

There will be some whack-job that will have a shoot-out with the cops, get killed and will immediately be labeled a poster-boy for the Tea-party or NRA by the complicit media.

We have become a nation of sheep, and there is no going back. The fight has been fought - we lost.


13 posted on 02/17/2013 7:31:39 AM PST by qwerty1234
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To: qwerty1234

You just put the cart before the horse.


16 posted on 02/17/2013 7:34:04 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: qwerty1234

“We have become a nation of sheep, and there is no going back. The fight has been fought - we lost.”

I agree with your first statement that we have become sheep...I know that in regards to firearms, I know I am not willing to die to make a point. However, I disagree with you that the fight has been lost. When we can no longer vote, then the fight will have been totally lost. Until then we can throw the numbskulls out of office....and that doesn’t require killing or being killed.


18 posted on 02/17/2013 7:37:47 AM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: qwerty1234
There will be some whack-job that will have a shoot-out with the cops, get killed and will immediately be labeled a poster-boy for the Tea-party or NRA by the complicit media.

Yep, had had that wacko Dorner not write that manifesto claiming his liberal allegiance he could have easily been the poster boy you mention.

Too bad more here don't see that instead of having knee jerk reactions to those of us questioning police tactics..

27 posted on 02/17/2013 7:49:24 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: qwerty1234

qwerty...no disrespect to you as I agree that many in this country have become sheep...however, as someone more insightful than me once said “soldiers, (or militia, or partisans), don’t fight because the hate who is in front of them, but because they love those who are behind them.”

This whole gun control debate isn’t about guns, isn’t about black metal and plastic objects(firearms), it’s about a free people’s ability to protect themselves and those they love standing behind them from those in front of them who want our guns so they can do things to us that they can only do if we’re unarmed.

I’m not a kook, I’m not an arm chair commando, I’m not even particularly brave...but I, along with millions of others will not consent to become slaves either.


36 posted on 02/17/2013 8:03:11 AM PST by Towed_Jumper (I fart in Mohammed's general direction!)
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To: qwerty1234

“The fight has been fought - we lost.”

Well, the proof is in the pudding, and the first armed shootout over the Second Amendment where LEOs come to take legally owned guns just because the law changed, hasn’t happened - yet.

And when it does, it will be The Shot Heard Round the World, II.

Consider this: the recent meteorite explosion in Russia was recorded on dashcams mounted in private automobles. Russian drivers have to deal with corrupt Russian police, and dashcams are their defense to record evidence of shakedowns or other malfeasance.

How many Americans have mounted dashcams due to fear of police brutality on our streets & highways? Very few, because most of us do not yet fear the police as unaccountable. But that’s changing and when/if police are sent to confiscate citizens’ guns, these incidents will be recorded, go viral, and start a revolution.


38 posted on 02/17/2013 8:06:44 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: qwerty1234; Noumenon; Travis McGee

What do you think the attitude will be of the rank and file who actually knock on doors to collect guns?

Do you think it will change once they have to go out realizing that others that have gone have been attacked directly, or their homes were burned to the ground while they were out?

I think they will blink, probably not first, but they will blink. The confiscators are outnumbered, and they will not want to be conducting raids while living in a shelter, with all their worldly possessions burned to a crisp.


55 posted on 02/17/2013 8:53:04 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: qwerty1234
The fight has been fought - we lost.

I remember when the Founding Fathers quit without even trying because the Tories were saying bad things about them. If someone calls you a bad name then the thing to do is surrender and cry about it.

77 posted on 02/17/2013 10:38:12 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: qwerty1234
There will be some whack-job that will have a shoot-out with the cops, get killed and will immediately be labeled a poster-boy for the Tea-party or NRA by the complicit media.

We have become a nation of sheep, and there is no going back. The fight has been fought - we lost.

The fight is not over until I am dead!

G

104 posted on 02/17/2013 1:16:20 PM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: qwerty1234
I seriously doubt it - for all the tough talk, 99.99% of the people when faced with the option of obeying the (illegal) laws, or having some sort of confrontation with a government hell-bent on taking away their rights, will rollover in 30 seconds or less and go back to the couch, eating Doritos, drinking their 2-Liter bottles of soda and watching mindless drivel on TV.

There are on the order of 100 million firearms owners in this country.

The 0.01% of them not particularly interested in 2-liter bottles of soda and mindless drivel on TV would then number 10,000.

Now imagine 10,000 rational Chris Dorners, quietly selecting targets, stalking and shooting targets, and quietly moving on to their next target, instead of running their mouths with manifestos on the internet.

What effect do you think that would have?

125 posted on 02/17/2013 4:20:13 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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