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To: qwerty1234
I seriously doubt it - for all the tough talk, 99.99% of the people when faced with the option of obeying the (illegal) laws, or having some sort of confrontation with a government hell-bent on taking away their rights, will rollover in 30 seconds or less and go back to the couch, eating Doritos, drinking their 2-Liter bottles of soda and watching mindless drivel on TV.

There are on the order of 100 million firearms owners in this country.

The 0.01% of them not particularly interested in 2-liter bottles of soda and mindless drivel on TV would then number 10,000.

Now imagine 10,000 rational Chris Dorners, quietly selecting targets, stalking and shooting targets, and quietly moving on to their next target, instead of running their mouths with manifestos on the internet.

What effect do you think that would have?

125 posted on 02/17/2013 4:20:13 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

99.99%? qwerty1234 obviously has never heard of the growing militia movement which I hear is now around a half a million in numbers.


139 posted on 02/17/2013 5:40:42 PM PST by ScottfromNJ
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To: DuncanWaring

I thought the number was 300 million firearm owners which was pre-Bush Jr. data? So now with largest arms buying in U.S. history probably 350 million.

The lessons learned from the Chris Dorner episode:

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When their own are targeted and in state of fear, expect law enforcement security forces to open fire. Forget the law, due process, inherent God given rights.

Did you see the blue truck ( a truck , different color than Dorner’s but a truck) filled with bullet holes and 2 ladies delivering newspapers shot, one in hand other in back, by 7 cops who expelled over 50 rounds into vehicle and into surrounding neighborhood puncturing homes? No warning, just open fire. Excuses by police supervisor, “they were stressed.” They should be in jail.

The surfer guy in another dark truck who was t-boned and fired upon without warning as well?

The audio heard over scanners after throwing CS gas into Dorner’s cabin, it’s heard to set up burners ‘like we talked about’, etc... thermite or incindiary grenades — I was reading the blogs while event was happening and people were posting what they heard on scanners before any fire started. They deliberately set place on fire, no conspiracy like media bullshits.

So if SHTF situation or gun confiscation we have a militarized police force that will be barbaric, with no concern for rights. These are the “only ones” the special privileged. Their “safety” is paramount to civilians rights, and burning homes down with people trapped inside is proper tactics.

But that will only last so long, and there aren’t enough law enforcement; in fact, there is a remarkable rage at law enforcement I’ve noticed looking at youtube videos or public comments all over internet on the recorded police abuses over the past decade. My personal opinion is police will be targeted in SHTF situation, their equipment and weapons taken, their HQ’s raided and robbed just like in 1920’s and 30’s. If I were law enforcement, lose the uniform and protect your families in this situation because chaos will reign.

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It took only one man with psy-ops in his written manifesto and spreading terror with a guerrilla war to bind up the 2nd largest city in the country, the entire state of CA and Federal security forces (drones included) for a week. There were reported 40 cops protecting homes of officers listed in manifesto. No more motorcycle patrol, all cars filled with 2 officers, manpower stretched to brink. All unsustainable for a long drawn out fight.

In no fashion is the modern surveillance police stated able to handle a minority of better trained, better thinking, better equipped determined insurgents, who’s targets would be restricted as much as possible to the enablers, planners, leadership.


140 posted on 02/17/2013 5:42:07 PM PST by TheBigJ
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