Posted on 01/31/2013 2:58:06 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
I visited a JBS bookstore as a kid, and I was familiar with their message. They were absolutely over the top, the Lyndon Larouche of their day. Everyone was a communist, especially Eisenhower, and they had a map showing the old south had been promised to the blacks as a separate country called the “Union of Soviet Socialist Negro Republics” or USSNR.
I swear the guy working the store looked and sounded like Lee Harvey Oswald. (It wasn’t).
Even W.F. Buckley and other big-name conservatives considered Welch a lunatic.
History has proven Buckley to be wrong in general and helped the left succeed. Big government types like Eisenhower are what brought us to the place we are today.
I would rather be compared to McCarthy or John Birch than compared to Obama or Clinton or any of the Bushes.
Anticommunism is tricky, given that communism no longer dominates foreign policy.
You’re right. Now communism is a domestic enemy.
Fixed
I'm a Bircher btw.
FMCDH(BITS)
In retrospect, all of the "extremist" things they said came true.
In 1966, the JBS did not call MLK a Communist, but did describe him as 'pink', after studying his actual statements.
This was heresy at the time. Rank racism and all that.
But it is accepted reality now.
As for some of the more incendiary things said by some people in the JBS, well, so what. Smearing the Right when they are right is an old tactic of the Bolshevik Left. And that pretty much describes the Democratic Party now.
The Birchers were and are right. The Statist gangbangers - because that's all they are - still march on the Long March to their "Communist Paradise". The fact that it turned out to be Hell on Earth in Russia and China deters them not.
The assassination of JFK was one of the few big events that was purely communist engineered. Solely by the one guy, Oswald, who was personally a communist, though it’s not clear he did it for that reason in particular. Funny enough, JFK conspiracy theorists, who are sufficiently loopy to leave Birchers in the dust, Oswald’s acting alone on the advice of his own ideologically addled mind is the one theory they won’t pursue.
They overlook the obvious...
FMCDH(BITS)
Glad to hear it from somebody who knows more than I
Thx Regulator
It amazes me that people don’t read and do their own analysis in terms of verifying whether facts are true or false.
I just keep asking simple questions.
Who were the founders of the Fed ?
Who were the founders of the Council on Foreign Relations ?
Did those same people purchase positions in the leading newspapers and obtain directorships in them ?
Did these same people finance Bolshevism and Nazism ?
Did these same people set up non-profit, tax-free foundations to manage their influences, and just how much influence do those foundations have ?
Why does the press hide the CFR ? Why does the press hide the foundations ?
Let me list out every Presidential advisor on foreign policy in the 20th century, see how influential they were, and were they a member of CFR or not.
There are several connections with 20th century Presidential advisors that would utterly SHOCK most people. But since it’s not taught in schools and kept secret by the press, the public remains ignorant.
In order to control a government, all one needs to do is be advisor to the people at the top. In order to control public opinion, one only needs to control the press. And if you control education, after one generation you can rewrite history, since basically no one reads old news articles.
Etc.
It doesn’t take long to arrive at conclusions that are pretty horrifying, or that would perhaps make a patriotic American who lost loved ones in wars not so happy. There is absolutely no valid reason for bankers to be interested in foreign relations to the point of advising heads of governments. There is absolutely no need for a central bank, when a government Treasury can create money. If the Treasury had simply created $17 trillion dollars over the years, we’d still have the same amount of money in the money supply, we just would not have $17 trillion in debt. You’ve got to ask yourself - how much profit is made off of $17 trillion in debt ? Who is making that profit ?
Most people just never take the time to really learn some very simple dynamics of control. For example, getting two people to fight against each other, supporting both of them without the other knowing, enables you to control both people - and have them owe you for supporting them.
Also, you can keep people totally unaware of what’s really going on by simply leaving out one or more parts of a story. This works well regarding the backstories for financial panics and wars.
Also, the best way to have a conspiracy and have it never be discovered - is float the conspiracy theory yourself of exactly what you are doing, simply without a few key facts. After that, anyone pointing out what you’re doing is branded a wacko conspiracy theorist by everyone, and your game can continue with virtual immunity from suspicion.
Not too long ago I was decidedly against any “conspiracy theory” about the Fed.
Just keep asking questions folks, research the facts.
If you can’t verify a fact, file it away for later, don’t assume it’s completely true.
Even discounting what’s not verifiable, once I started digging, it changed my whole perception of the 20th century, and I became disgusted by it. Even with most things being unverifiable, many events fail the smell test miserably.
I’m not a member of JBS, I’m just looking for the facts and I do my own analysis. JBS is by no means the only organzation against the international banking cartel.
If the American people all knew what was behind much of what went on in the 20th century, they’d understand the problem and be able to start thinking about how to fix it. The government (they are only minions) wants to protect their secrets at all costs, so be warned (keep family and friends close and fully aware and keep copies of key documents preserved); DHS/CIA/etc. is all over everyone on this stuff so you need to stay 100% legal in all that you do. This is about information and nothing else - what is needed is to shine the light of the truth on what is going on.
Well, as someone who grew up in an ultra, ultra liberal home in an ultra liberal community with a parent who worked for the U.N.- and was taught to mock and deride the JBS - guess what - when I began to read history closely, I discovered to my great surprise that Robert Welch was right about communism and right about Eisenhower.
It was under Eisenhower’s watch that both Tibet and Cuba were taken over by communism. When the U.S. ambassador to Cuba went to D.C. in 1957 to warn Eisenhower that Castro was a Red, Eisenhower responded by firing the ambassador.
Buckley was a pretentious patrician fool who dumped on the JBS for reasons of class, not politics.
What annoys me is that while some things are intentionally kept secret, like the Jekyll Island meeting, others are out there in the open for everyone to see. For instance, whatever its origins and whoever its sponsors the Fed bill explicitly sought to grant monopoly powers over the banking industry to a cartel in order to bail oit rich guys when the markets dip. This was no secret.
Why couldn’t the people prevent its passage, and what would knowing about the Morgans, Rockefellers, Warbugs, Rothschilds, or Medicis matter. As if we didn’t know who was going to run it—what, were they gonna take ads out in the yellow pages?—and benefit—hmmm, let’s see, should we save the economy by injecting capital into a mom and pop store in Bumwad, Mississippi, or US Steel? People are stupid and lazy, I know. But here’s the point: tgey’ll be that way with or without the evidence in the open. Add to that the very public and very obvious boondoggles that are all the leftist supranational organizations, from the UN to IMF, WB, WTO, etc. Who lacks for barbs to throw at them?
So I ask, firstly, why do conspiracy theorist expend so much energy digging up what’s hidden? Not that it’s fruitless, but it can lead to a lot of unfounded speculation. I could spend the rest of my life reading about outrages that happen before our eyes. Secondly, why don’t we talk more about the outrages before our eyes? Because evil bankers controlling in secret the tool that was obviously made to be used by evil bankers, or Eisenhower secretly being a communist is a more seductive argument than Eisenhower’s policies benefitting communism by accident.
Agree !!!!
Welch was WRONG!!!! about Eisenhower, and you’re wrong about Buckley. Buckley (and Goldwater’s) biggest sin was opposing the Civil Rights movement which cost the Republican Party a great percentage of the Black vote. But in his day Buckley was practically the only media voice opposing the march of socialism in the U.S. He opposed Robert Welch because he was nut who did great harm to the conservative movement by calling everything that moved communist. Welch and people like the anti-Semitic Willis Carto of the Liberty Lobby were two people/orgs. regular conservatives were well rid of.
Really? Other than being wrong on the Civil Rights issues of the sixties (which he later admitted to being wrong), how has history proved him wrong?
Lefties couldn’t face the fact that a Commie killed JFK....if you go back and watch the coverage of the assassination as it happened, over and over again Cronkite, and the other commentators talked about how right wingers hated Kennedy, and even noted that Adlai Stevenson was attacked in Dallas a few weeks before by “right wingers”.....They so wanted it to be a right wing conspiracy that killed Kennedy.
Good point, we do need some good people to step up right about now... Jim Robinson and Andrew Breitbart have done it right, and myself trying my small part as a blogger...
MLK spent a lot of time with Communists and sympathizers - some Bircher's thought he was being used by the commies, others thought he was using the commies.
But I never heard a Bircher trash King (I think MLK cleverly used the Reds to achieve a worthy goal).
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