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1 posted on 01/16/2013 4:41:22 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Science is of use in explaining and predicting the natural world. Creationism is useless.


2 posted on 01/16/2013 4:47:13 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: EveningStar

It just goes to show that one person CAN make a difference!


3 posted on 01/16/2013 4:49:29 PM PST by diamond6 (Need scientific proof of God? Check out: http://www.magisreasonfaith.org/)
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To: EveningStar

I am here to say I have nothing to say.

But I will watch with... interest.

I am sort of interested in suggestions on how to dispose of the billions of artifacts in geology and other Earth Sciences that point to only one possible theory.

And those who think a Scientific Theory is a Guess all growed up (AGW is NOT a Scientific Theory by any proper application btw).

Other than that, I got nuthin’

Thanks in advance for the fun.

/watch mode


4 posted on 01/16/2013 4:50:13 PM PST by freedumb2003 (MOLON LABE)
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To: EveningStar
Ten bucks says that by his 25th birthday Zack will have contracted AIDS,Hep C and rectal syphilis.And he'll loudly proclaim that it's Bush's (and the NRA’s) fault.
11 posted on 01/16/2013 4:58:41 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (When Robbing Peter To Pay Paul,One Can Always Count On Paul's Cooperation)
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To: EveningStar

Have you ever noticed how people on the right who feel strongly about an issue are called “extremists”, while those on the left are called “activists?”


14 posted on 01/16/2013 5:04:56 PM PST by GreenHornet
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To: EveningStar
His father is Andy Kopplin, who is the First Deputy Mayor and Chief Administrative Officer for the city of New Orleans. Kopplin was Chief of Staff for Governors Blanco and Foster and created the Louisiana Recovery Authority under Blanco. -- Wikipedia
16 posted on 01/16/2013 5:08:59 PM PST by x
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To: EveningStar
Well one thing this kid needs to learn is it is the THEORY of evolution - not LAW; so don't act like there is nothing to challenge evolution. Can there not be another "theory?"

The fossil record doesn't support half the nonsense evolutionists come up with, no one has ever proven a Big Bang, and I don't see any dogs with gills, or talking fish - their fossils seem to have disappeared too.

And strangely enough animals seem to decide to wallow over to one area and die in large groups so their fossils can be found together. Fossilized trees have been found that extend through multiple layers of sediment - you know that stuff that take millions of years to deposit, because trees can grow with fossilized roots, because they evolved that way.

And clams at one time had legs, but evolution said they didn't need them which is why seashells are found near the top of Mt. Everest - definitely a more plausible story than a catastrophic event such as a flood of Noah's Ark proportions.

Cannot a competing "theory" held by a considerable number of Americans also be taught as well?

17 posted on 01/16/2013 5:10:59 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: EveningStar

What I find troubling is that this student activist claims to be a champion of science yet makes very unscientific claims such the one where he suggests that if a child is not taught a strict narrow secular/atheist form of evolution in a public school they will not be able to operate as a research scientist or save wetlands. It is not only unscientific but patently untrue. The bulk of the scienitists that produced our modern world of science and medicine were believers in creation even if they all weren’t creationists in the very narrow interpretation that the scientific left wish to lump all creationists into which is the “young earth” creationists.

The truth is I don’t much care but I will err on the side of freedom. If public funds can be used to promote a liberal political agenda in schools let us have an open playing field. Kids will grow up and what they learn or do not learn about evolution or any number of other topics will not prevent them from achieving success if they are worthy of it. Given the amount of crap that passes for science and education in public schools and I’m intimately familiar because I did attend them I don’t believe allowing public funds to teach kids in ways approved by their parents is a threat at all. The world will go on and the technical aspects of biology will not change either way. I don’t understand the fear myself. It is irrational just as this student activist is an irrational moron who commits the same sins of ignorance that he sees in his opponents.


28 posted on 01/16/2013 5:26:39 PM PST by Maelstorm (You may not believe in the devil but he most certainly believes in you.)
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To: EveningStar

“Outraged, he wrote a research paper about it for a high school English class.”

O.K., without getting into any debate about “creationism”, what the above quote tells me is that the high school “English teacher” sees assisting and inciting kids to get political as part of the teacher’s role in teaching.

For a mere course in English there is little cause for the topic to have even come up. But the education of teachers, in the college courses they take to become teachers and in the mission statement of the college with respect to the training of teachers, includes teaching teachers to, and how to, infuse the Marxist/Progressive/Liberal political agendas into every course.


32 posted on 01/16/2013 5:29:47 PM PST by Wuli (uire)
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To: EveningStar

I see absolutely no conflict between the reality of God’s creation and the scientific truth of the big bang. I find nothing more awe inspiring than the thought of God saying ‘Let there be light’ and the universe appearing before him from nothing.
I see absolutely no problem with God-directed evolution.


46 posted on 01/16/2013 6:11:37 PM PST by HogsBreath
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To: EveningStar

someone please tell me where the edge of space is located then explain what lies beyond that and beyond that?

I almost believe we are in a Matrix type world.

Watching a two hour program on space on PBS really screwed with my head man and I’m a bible believing Christian.


51 posted on 01/16/2013 6:32:01 PM PST by Hammerhead
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To: EveningStar

Some of the most accomplished scientists of my personal acquaintance, respected, published, peer-reviewed and published, one a leaders of research in a land grant college, are creationists, if for no reason other than that which seems utterly impossible may well be just that.
They do not publish their unorthodox convictions, of course, inasmuch as closed minded evolutionists control the gates to tenure.
There remains a very large, multimillion dollar reward, unclaimed, for a proof that that which we call life could have spontaneously arisen from non-life. We see evolutionary changes occurring, but none producing wholly new species, and none breaching the limits of the genetic information already available.
A bald assertion does not to me constitute proof that life was initiated by evolutionary modifications of non-living material. Believing that RNA and DNA molecules assembled themselves, or that mindless forces did the job, is simply too much for me to swallow.


60 posted on 01/16/2013 7:04:22 PM PST by Elsiejay
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To: EveningStar

A lot of Science is really fundamentalist Religion pretending to be Science. Global Warming, for example.


64 posted on 01/16/2013 7:23:46 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant
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To: EveningStar; Alamo-Girl; hosepipe; marron; metmom; xzins
Sigh.... This kid is a retread of a dying culture already. What he exposits here in the name of "political correctness" has never been true in human experience, and never will be.

I just figure he's a kid on the make; and knows where the money is....

Given high academic credentials and a sufficient store of narcissism (and the concomitant moral blindness that regularly attends this sort of "juncture"), he just might make it big-time in 0bama's Brave New World.

132 posted on 01/17/2013 6:48:07 PM PST by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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He worries that, if Louisiana (and Tennessee, which also has a similar law) insists on teaching students creationism, students will not be the ones discover the cure to AIDS or cancer. "We won't be the ones to repair our own damaged wetlands and protect ourselves from more hurricanes like Katrina," he says.

Poor me. I'll never be able to understand how people whose ultimate reality is oblivion feel so motivated to combat "evils" and solve "problems."

157 posted on 01/18/2013 8:32:38 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: EveningStar

Definitely a fag.
206 posted on 01/19/2013 2:12:21 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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