CRAP! CRAP! CRAP!

butterdezillion

[butterdezillion]

I just found out that all the faxes I sent to the Republican members of Congress have been referred to just the 3 Congress-critters who represent me. I need everybody to contact your own Congress members and let them know that Hawaii registrar Alvin Onaka has certified to AZ SOS Ken Bennett that Obama's Hawaii birth certificate is not legally valid.

Bennett asked Onaka to verify, among other things, that Obama, male, was born on Aug 4, 1961, in Honolulu on Oahu to Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Hussein Obama. According to Hawaii law, Onaka has to verify any submitted information if he can certify that the birth actually happened that way. And though Onaka verified that the claims on the White House image are claimed on the record they've got, he did not verify the truth of any of those facts. The only lawful reason for that is if the record they have is not legally valid.

You can see the documentation for all this at http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/complete-klayman-letter-to-bauer.pdf

Two other verifications (to MDEC and to KS SOS Kris Kobach) are also consistent with a non-valid record. Onaka has been willing to say that the claims that are actually on the White House image "match" the claims on the record but is NOT willing to say that the information is "identical" or that the White House image is a "true and accurate representation of the original record on file". His refusal to verify what he was specifically asked is his confirmation that those things are NOT true. It is NOT a true and accurate representation of the original record and the information in it is NOT identical to the information in the real record. IOW, the White House image is a forgery.

Which is what affidavits by Sheriff Joe Arpaio and his Cold Case Posse commander, Mike Zullo, also say.

This fits with the 1960-64 birth index being altered to include non-valid records (which I've proven in an affidavit filed for a NE criminal case). And a bunch of other evidence too.

The long and short of it is this: Hawaii has officially certified that they cannot verify Obama's date of birth, city and island of birth, and parents' names. Those are critical to eligibility. With no legally-established birth facts, there is nobody who can certify that Obama is eligible, and every Official Certification of Nomination that Bob Bauer sent to the state SOS's to get Obama on the ballot are fraudulent at best.

IOW, every electoral vote that Obama got was the result of legally-acknowledged (by Hawaii) fraud.

We need the members of Congress to know that every electoral vote for Obama that they accept tomorrow is a vote to accept known criminal behavior.

Please help me get this word out to everybody, since the "machine" will only let me contact 3 people, and I've already done that. We need one Senator and one Representative to object to all the known-fraudulent electoral votes for Barack Obama.

[Smokeyblue]

Since when does Hawaii give out PDF files with the security features being moveable and removable?

"In this example, the "smiley" A is,in the typical birther opinion, a secret message from the alleged forger to the world."

I've never subscribed to the "smiley" face notion. It's an anomaly to me unless the forger comes forward and claims it. But that's just another talking point/misdirection for the trolls.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks LucyT and neverdem.

[Smokeyblue]

That COLB has NEVER been seen publically nor submitted to a court and has NEVER been verified as certified from Hawaii. There is a reason for that.

That print out submitted to the judge in GA outside of court, should be considered fraud too.

He relied on a non-certified, printout of a jpeg from a website. Just reprehensible for a judge. A total mockery of law.

[4Zoltan]

“then was partly altered by OCR. The OCR cleans up stuff that it thinks is letters and leaves the rest alone, hence the two looks of text, one pixellated and the other not. “

A better explanation is Mixed Raster Content (MRC) compression. The compression software separated the complex image (one with both images and text) into layers called masks. And compresses them using different algorithms. The green background image is compressed in the same way a photo is compressed and losses detail and resolution. The text layers are compressed using algorithms that keep the detail.

It was discussed here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2937343/posts

[edge919]

I keep reading how the DOH is lawless, swapping cert numbers between different BCs, lying about their policies or statutes, using illegal raised seals, changing the index data, etc. but when it came time to write the certified verification, Dr. O said “I can’t verify that, that would be illegal.”

Except, he didn't say this. The omission of required verification statements is what says this, but Alvin T. Onaka Ph.D. never actually says anything close to what you've oversimplified. Otherwise, it's a document designed to look comprehensive when it really isn't. Of course, they took several weeks to figure out a way to do this while making sure they were covering their asses.

After all these years of lawlessness, that was suddenly the line he wasn’t going to cross?

You understand there's a difference between a document that was going to be public as opposed to a series of activities that was not??

[edge919]

It’s too bad that doesn’t explain why the green background was separated into a precise rectangular mask around the edges. I’m sure anyone can make excuses and as long as they use some technical language, it might fool people.

[Smokeyblue]

Sure Mr. Troll, ignore the IMPORTED, ROTATED and REDUCED TEXT BLOCKS which are SECURITY FEATURES.

That’s not OCR that’s FORGERY and FRAUD.

[4Zoltan]

Swapping BC numbers is not public?

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[4Zoltan]

Nor does it explain why a forger would do that.

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[edge919]

Swapping BC numbers is not public?

Show where it was publicly swapped. You have photos??

[edge919]

Nor does it explain why a forger would do that.

Sure it does. The document had to be electronically built somehow. That would involve creating separate layers and/or masking certain layers to create a finished product that looks convincing.

[ConstantSkeptic]

Was the reading of Electoral College votes today legally valid, when objections weren’t requested as mandated by 3 U.S.C. 15?

Per 3 U.S.C. 15: Upon such reading of any such certificate or paper, the President of the Senate shall call for objections, if any.

There were no objections to call for, so Biden did nothing wrong by not calling for non-existent objections. None of the senators or representatives present during this count objected to this omission. This is a non-issue.

[El Gato]

The electoral college vote is the real election’ the other was just to oick the electors.

[palmer]

OCR does not IMPORT things from outside files.

Sorry, I will have to explain this carefully. There were two certified copies of the 1961 doc delivered to the WH, and one was scanned in. Some wonk or wonks who scanned it in played with it. They did some preprocessing typically associated with OCR. There were not about to OCR the thing since they had absolutely no need to OCR it. They simply played around and then printed it out.

What you and the other birthers completely fail to realize is that there is a real 1961 doc which many people have seen in HI. Some of them have verified it officially like Onaka just did. The Hawaiians have made copies of the doc (xerox onto green hashed paper) and certified those. Those were shipped to the WH among other places. Lots of people have seen those (the certified copies and held them in their hands). Some of those people in the WH are devious. One or more of them decided to scan one in and play around with it to feed birther fantasies.

Is it possible all those people in HI and the WH are lying? The reporters who saw the certified copies first hand? Sure some of the WH people are born liars along with the reporters. But it is not remotely plausible that they all are lying. The only way to make it plausible is to come up with complete detailed fantasy like Butterdezillion has done here. Lots of birthers mean well and spend lots of quality hours thinking about this carefully. But others have not looked at very much and simply believe because they want to. You are the latter.

[palmer]

Since when does Hawaii give out PDF files with the security features being moveable and removable?

Hawaii sent two certified copies of the BC to the WH. Both AFAIK had stamps and seals. The security paper (green hashes) were on one, maybe not the other. If the green hash paper was used for both of them then the WH made B&W copies when they handed out copies to reporters. The green hash paper was definitely on one (the one that was scanned and doodled with and sent out as a PDF). The other might have been made as a B&W copy in HI and stamped and sealed there.

Hawaii does not send or give out PDF files.

Hawaii stamps (Alvin Onaka rubber stamp) and seals (embossing) all their docs AFAIK and did so with these.

[palmer]

A better explanation is Mixed Raster Content (MRC) compression.

Thanks I stand somewhat corrected. OCR probably starts with similar algorithms. in any case I decided to waste yet more time doing one of my own for "Fresh Wind" who was unconvinced that a scanned paper doc could be turned into the PDF produced by the WH:

There are essentially just two ways to produce the WH PDF. One is to create all the portions from other segments of scanned components or completely digitally generaTed components, Heck in the extreme someone could sell software called "BC GEN" which wold have you type in the vitals and it would spit out a doc looking a lot like a typed 1961 BC complete with fake ink stamp. The last step would be printing onto green hashed paper and applying a seal.

The second way, and the way used in this case, is to started with a physical document, in this case the certified copy of the BC sent from HI. That is simply scanned into the computer and played around with. It hardly matters how it was played around with even though whole threads can be spent speculating about it. It is trivially easy and by far the explanation that fits the facts in this case.

[palmer]

The document had to be electronically built somehow

No, the WH PDF was created by scanning a certified copy of the 1961 original doc that exists in HI. The reason we know that doc exists is that Alvin Onaka verified that it exists (and others in HI have verbally verified its existence). Two certified copies (meaning rubber stamped and embossed) were delivered to the WH in 2011 and xeroxes of those and those two certified copies were passed around and inspected by reporters (some of whom were admittedly clueless). No actual birther experts were allowed to inspect these unfortunately.

Anyway, one of the certified copies was scanned into a computer in the WH by some foolish flunky who believes in playing birther conspiracy mongering. That is not surprising considering the juvenile types they employ. They took the scan into photoshop or some other program (it hardly matters at all) and played around, then exported as a PDF.

The provenance is that the original 1961 doc in hawaii was xeroxed from the book onto green hashed paper. It was stamped and signed by Onaka and sealed (embossed). It was delivered to the WH and scanned. The scan was doodled around with. Could it have been substantively altered in that step? Sure. Who knows, who cares because the original exists. Then that was exported to PDF and posted on the WH web site.

[palmer]

A better explanation is Mixed Raster Content (MRC) compression.

Whatever. I still haven't read that thread because I really truly don't care. But here is one of the layers:

Note that the SW picked up some text and not other text and some scribbling and not other scribbling. Could be MCR does that but I do not know and do not care. Then this layer was processed a bit to sharpen the text and scribbling that landed in it. The SW that sharpens is trivial. The SW that separated out that layer was a little less trivial, but still pretty simply: some sort of gray scale threshold. No elaborate explanations are required.

[servantboy777]

>>You’re wasting your time.<<

I respectfully disagree with your statement.

He is doing something, may not register with some, but doing SOMETHING is better than doing nothing at all.

I say, keep up the good work in keeping this alive in folks minds....especially congress.

[seekthetruth]

Thanks for the update!