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If it isn't time for a third party, when will it be?
1 posted on 01/01/2013 12:59:07 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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Words fail.....


2 posted on 01/01/2013 1:40:23 AM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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has the house agreed to it yet?


3 posted on 01/01/2013 1:44:07 AM PST by RC one (From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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“If it isn’t time for a third party, when will it be? “
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Never, as long as you have an idiot public that has been dumbed down to moron level.
Over 50 percent of the idiots think Obumbo is just swell, and they will, no doubt, welcome the new USSA.

You guys better start looking offshore for a new life.
America is not coming back from the abyss, at least not in your lifetime.


4 posted on 01/01/2013 1:55:20 AM PST by AlexW
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Not to worry.. This vote was only for a stop-gap measure. The final bill providing for spending cuts is probably only decades away.


5 posted on 01/01/2013 2:02:29 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The tax increases, as scored, were 1/5th of the the fiscal cliff tax increases: $600 billion over ten years, instead of $3 trillion. They will cut the deficit by 5%. That is a drop in the bucket.

The expense reductions will come two months from now, when the debt ceiling negotiations and the sequester coincide. That is now the next cliff.

If the House lets us go over that cliff, then the total cuts are $3 trillion and the additional revenue is $600 billion. That cuts the deficit by 30% over ten years, with 83% of the reduction coming from spending cuts. Along the way, of course, essential items will be added back to the Defense budget.

This is looking like a good deal. Just send us over the cliff in March!

6 posted on 01/01/2013 2:04:46 AM PST by Praxeologue
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No such thing as cuts in spending.


8 posted on 01/01/2013 2:15:52 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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Was talking to a group people. They were talking about the “fiscal cliff” .They said that the Congress didn’t do anything blah blah blah. They were so worried etc. I interrupted and asked ok anyone who can tell me what is the fiscal cliff I’ll give $1 to. Not a single idiot knew .the media has everyone brainwashed . it’s no cliff . it’s just a media ploy to destroy the GOP . Do the Congressmen even know what it the stupid media’s “fiscal cliff”


10 posted on 01/01/2013 2:38:13 AM PST by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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Socialism Is Legal Plunder - Frederic Bastiat

http://www.usdebtclock.org

BIG GOVERNMENT IS CRONY SOCIALISM


12 posted on 01/01/2013 2:44:18 AM PST by PGalt
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Music to read this thread by...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRe42BDK_R4


17 posted on 01/01/2013 3:00:06 AM PST by PGalt
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So, they basically were spending all this time digging a trench at the bottom of the fiscal cliff.


18 posted on 01/01/2013 3:08:24 AM PST by green pastures (Cynicism-- it's not just for breakfast anymore...)
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Capitulation... so easy, even a CAVE-man can do it.

We knew this was coming. All along.


20 posted on 01/01/2013 3:11:51 AM PST by ScottinVA (More dizzying than a Tilt-a-Whirl is an around-a-circle argument with a liberal about gun control.)
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Exactly. The GOP isn`t going to win a Presidential election again, so why not let the party go the way of the Whigs and the conservative movement reconstitute into something better? If not now.. when?


21 posted on 01/01/2013 3:15:32 AM PST by ScottinVA (More dizzying than a Tilt-a-Whirl is an around-a-circle argument with a liberal about gun control.)
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GOPe showing us how the pros handle the situation

seriously, why bother even showing up


25 posted on 01/01/2013 5:30:02 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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DID BOEHNER ET AL. AGREE TO THIS!??? DISGUSTING!


26 posted on 01/01/2013 5:31:40 AM PST by dinodino
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We are in the Bread(EBT) and Circuses(NFL)™ phase of the republic's downfall.

"Bread and Circuses" (or bread and games) (from Latin: panem et circenses) is a metaphor for a superficial means of appeasement. In the case of politics, the phrase is used to describe the creation of public approval, not through exemplary or excellent public service or public policy, but through diversion; distraction; or the mere satisfaction of the immediate, shallow requirements of a populace, as an offered "palliative." Juvenal decried it as a simplistic motivation of common people. The phrase also implies the erosion or ignorance of civic duty amongst the concerns of the common man.

28 posted on 01/01/2013 5:38:03 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Before the election, anti-tax conservatives were regularly asked by members of the news media if they would accept $10 of cuts for every $1 of tax increases. So this grand deal is 410 times worse than those suggestions. And I don’t believe for a second that Boehner and McConnell will put up any more real fight when the debt ceiling is increased.


30 posted on 01/01/2013 6:20:11 AM PST by KarlInOhio (I'm tired of being beaten like a malcontent elf so Obama can pretend to be Santa.)
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Republicans should propose the $40 difference come directly from welfare, section 8 and food stamp funds. Then we can sit back and watch the Obama voters as they try and dislodge their heads from their keesters to take a sudden interest in the deficit issue.
31 posted on 01/01/2013 6:34:50 AM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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Of course this fact will be lost on the low information voters that re-elected Obama. We are seeing the beginning of the end of the United States. In four years Obama will tear up the Constitution, declare himself President for life and run the country as a failed Marxist state little different than Venezuela or East Germany.
33 posted on 01/01/2013 7:12:56 AM PST by The Great RJ
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Newsmax
Norquist Throws His Support Behind Biden-McConnell Plan
Monday, December 31, 2012 08:46 PM

By: Todd Beamon

Grover Norquist, the influential president of Americans for Tax Reform, said he would support a plan, negotiated by Vice President Joe Biden and House Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, to resolve the fiscal cliff drama.

“This is progress in terms of making most of the Bush tax cuts permanent,” Norquist told CNN. “Is it enough? No. Does it do anything on spending? No. But that’s what the next four years are going to be.

“The next four years will be about clawing back the overspending of the Obama years — and now we need to get the spending down,” he added. “The problem is too much spending, not too little taxes, and now we turn our attention to spending cuts.”

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/Norquist-Biden-McConnell-support/2012/12/31/id/469608


34 posted on 01/01/2013 8:38:54 AM PST by KeyLargo
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